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jvessio01
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 Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:14 pm Post subject: On-line degrees |
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| I read on a recruiters web- site that an online degree is not applicable. Does anyone have or heard anything about this? This was the first time I heard of this. |
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litebear
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| First I've heard of it as well. Does the institution you got your degree from have a bricks and mortar campus aswell? If so is there anyway the recruiter or Kimmi could ever find out that you got the degree online? |
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ttompatz
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Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:29 am Post subject: Re: On-line degrees |
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| jvessio01 wrote: |
| I read on a recruiters web- site that an online degree is not applicable. Does anyone have or heard anything about this? This was the first time I heard of this. |
It depends on what institution granted your degree and where you are from.
If you are from the UK or Canada and got your degree from the (UK or Canadian) Open University you would be fine. (Both are nationally accredited and internationally recognized).
If you got it from a paper mill in the states your application would probably be rejected out of hand (Kimmi has a HUGE list of paper mills) and if you do manage to get through and it is discovered later you would be prosecuted for use of fraudulent documents in a visa application (3 years in jail).
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jvessio01
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:37 am Post subject: |
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| Ok, I received my degree from University of Phoenix, they have a campus as well. It is an accredited university in the U.S.. When I was filling out an application for a recruiter they had the University on a drop down box for Universities attended. |
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| jvessio01 wrote: |
| Ok, I received my degree from University of Phoenix, they have a campus as well. It is an accredited university in the U.S.. When I was filling out an application for a recruiter they had the University on a drop down box for Universities attended. |
It is NOT on the list of diploma mills. You will probably be OK. Just don't tell anyone that you did it by distance learning (UOPX does have a number of brick and mortar campuses and no-one will know the difference).
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Public schools don't care and it would make little difference to what you do there.
Many private schools and hogwans do not accept on-line diplomas since they require teachers to be able to effectively instruct their pupils in numerous subject areas. You should not lie about your diploma and just accept that you are not qualified for the best of the hogwans and private schools.
Immigration has rejected applicants from degree mills that find their way to Immi's list, as mentioned above, including some brick-and-mortar universities and some on-line programs. |
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jvessio01
Joined: 19 Jun 2011
Location: Ny
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
Public schools don't care and it would make little difference to what you do there.
Many private schools and hogwans do not accept on-line diplomas since they require teachers to be able to effectively instruct their pupils in numerous subject areas. You should not lie about your diploma and just accept that you are not qualified for the best of the hogwans and private schools.
Immigration has rejected applicants from degree mills that find their way to Immi's list, as mentioned above, including some brick-and-mortar universities and some on-line programs. |
ok , thanks for your opinion. I do regret not going to school earlier in life but I do not regret going back in my mid 30's at UOP. I dont agree with anyone's opinion of my lack of being qualified and will never accept what you state that I should. If I did it would go against the type of person that I am. I may be shot down at one school but that will not stop me from applying else where, as long as immi doesnt shoot me down. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| jvessio01 wrote: |
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Public schools don't care and it would make little difference to what you do there.
Many private schools and hogwans do not accept on-line diplomas since they require teachers to be able to effectively instruct their pupils in numerous subject areas. You should not lie about your diploma and just accept that you are not qualified for the best of the hogwans and private schools.
Immigration has rejected applicants from degree mills that find their way to Immi's list, as mentioned above, including some brick-and-mortar universities and some on-line programs. |
ok , thanks for your opinion. I do regret not going to school earlier in life but I do not regret going back in my mid 30's at UOP. I dont agree with anyone's opinion of my lack of being qualified and will never accept what you state that I should. If I did it would go against the type of person that I am. I may be shot down at one school but that will not stop me from applying else where, as long as immi doesnt shoot me down. |
Going back for further education is never a waste (and I probably have more university issued, pretty wallpaper than most on this forum). Learning is a lifelong endeavor and shouldn't stop when you get out of school.
IN KOREA employers won't care where your degree is from as long as you can get a visa based on your degree.
IF immigration allows the visa based on your degree and your degree was legit then you have no worry and the fact that you did it long distance rather than on campus is not relevant to the issue so don't tell anyone.
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jvessio01
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the advice. Will do. |
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ontheway
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
IN KOREA employers won't care where your degree is from as long as you can get a visa based on your degree.
IF immigration allows the visa based on your degree and your degree was legit then you have no worry and the fact that you did it long distance rather than on campus is not relevant to the issue so don't tell anyone.
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Don't be misled by the bias of Ttompatz.
Ttompatz is correct that the public schools don't care, they even have a program to hire individuals with only 2 years of college, and having any college at all makes very little difference in the public schools. If you can speak English, smile, bow, act polite, and show up on time, you'll be fine in public schools. Some hogwans and private schools aren't much better and they won't care either. Most schools won't ask and it won't be in their contracts.
However, there are many employers in Korea with requirements that exceed Immigration's requirements. They do care that you never attended a university and although you may be one of the world's self-taught geniuses, these private schools and hogwans will not hire individuals with on-line degrees.
If you are asked if you actually attended a university, and/or if this requirement is in your contract, you should NOT follow the advice quoted above. Do not hide the truth. If you get a job by fraudulent means you could suffer immediate termination and you would be liable for all associated costs. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
IN KOREA employers won't care where your degree is from as long as you can get a visa based on your degree.
IF immigration allows the visa based on your degree and your degree was legit then you have no worry and the fact that you did it long distance rather than on campus is not relevant to the issue so don't tell anyone.
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Don't be misled by the bias of Ttompatz.
Ttompatz is correct that the public schools don't care, they even have a program to hire individuals with only 2 years of college, and having any college at all makes very little difference in the public schools. If you can speak English, smile, bow, act polite, and show up on time, you'll be fine in public schools. Some hogwans and private schools aren't much better and they won't care either. Most schools won't ask and it won't be in their contracts.
However, there are many employers in Korea with requirements that exceed Immigration's requirements. They do care that you never attended a university and although you may be one of the world's self-taught geniuses, these private schools and hogwans will not hire individuals with on-line degrees.
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First off all most public schools have requirements that exceed Immigration's requirements. To list just one thing they ask for sealed transcripts which Immigration no longer asks for. And apart from the TALK program (which is mainly for Korean-Americans/Canadians.) a 4 year degree is mandatory for obtaining the E-2-1 visa to teach a public schools.
Hakwons on the other hand are well-known for hiring illegal teachers and having illegal contracts. Of course not all but many if not most do. |
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