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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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You need a MA for a good position in a good university.
Also note what was said earlier, most of the better positions are staffed through referals and contacts.
Also note that this is not the best time of the year to apply for good university positions. |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:15 am Post subject: |
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Some universities, usually smaller ones in cities or those located outside of cities, may still hire people with just the BA. The CELTA/DELTA addition would be great, but the MA trumps.
All of the people I know at the higher paying, big university jobs have their MA, plus the CELTA/DELTA and other certs. At the top, it gets much more competitive. |
Most of the teachers I know at SKY and other top unis don't have CELTAs or DELTAs. |
Most Korean professors don't even know what a CELTA is. |
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PRagic
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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That's a great point and huge part of the problem, at least from what I've picked up from my buddies in TESOL. Most of the Korean faculty are from the Lit side, and don't really know too much about actually teaching the language.
I've said it before: teaching English paid the bills and helped to get us where we are today, but in more ways than one, I'm very glad that I'm no longer in that field. I have a lot of respect for my friends in TESOL career tracks. |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| PRagic wrote: |
That's a great point and huge part of the problem, at least from what I've picked up from my buddies in TESOL. Most of the Korean faculty are from the Lit side, and don't really know too much about actually teaching the language.
I've said it before: teaching English paid the bills and helped to get us where we are today, but in more ways than one, I'm very glad that I'm no longer in that field. I have a lot of respect for my friends in TESOL career tracks. |
Agreed. You made the right move, IMO. It's not all that common to find either a local professor or a foreign professor with a doctorate in TESOL, SLA, Applied Linguistics or Education (with a focus in ELT), etc. Most of them have Lit. Ph.D degrees.
That being said, within the last few years, more foreign instructors have started pursuing doctorates with a specific focus in language teaching and learning. It won't be long now until they are not as hard to find among foreign faculty. I'm just curious to see if maybe in another 3 - 5 years whether the M.A. will become the new B.A. ! |
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PRagic
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Already happening, and exactly what happened in Japan starting way back when....
In the not-too-distant future, the only university jobs available to those without at least their MA will be jobs that nobody should ever take!
IMHO, that's the way it should be. |
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