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carleverson



Joined: 04 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruby Thursday wrote:
carleverson wrote:
Is there any way to get a Nook Color from Korea cheaply?


What u mean from korea?

I don't think they are sold here. I ordered mine online. Shipping was $30 and there were no import fees because the device is under $300.


Yes, I'm in Korea.

Did you order from Barnes and Noble?
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Modernist



Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: The 90s

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Count me among the defenders of Kindle.

I looked at a Nook [er, 'nook'?] before I left the US. The deciding factor was and will always be the Amazon store experience, which is light-years ahead of B&N. So much easier to find and get what you want, especially if you are old-fashioned like me and actually intend to pay for the written works of other people.

The Nook Color is a pretty slick little faux-tablet though. But it's not as good a pure reader as Kindle, and can't do half as much as a real tablet [e.g. iPad]. Better to have two excellent devices than one in the mushy middle, I think.

Regardless of which you pick, be sure to get it in the US before you leave. I don't see how you'd get either of them here without a LONG wait and series $ in shipping fees.
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Ruby Thursday



Joined: 29 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modernist wrote:
Count me among the defenders of Kindle.

I looked at a Nook [er, 'nook'?] before I left the US. The deciding factor was and will always be the Amazon store experience, which is light-years ahead of B&N. So much easier to find and get what you want, especially if you are old-fashioned like me and actually intend to pay for the written works of other people.

The Nook Color is a pretty slick little faux-tablet though. But it's not as good a pure reader as Kindle, and can't do half as much as a real tablet [e.g. iPad]. Better to have two excellent devices than one in the mushy middle, I think.


What can a full tablet do that a rooted Nook Color can't? I have the android market and my nook can do anything a Galaxy Tab can do...and faster (by overclocking). Seriously, where did you get this information? And how is a "pure reader" better? Personally I prefer the LCD screen over e-ink. Most of my reading is done at night in a dark room.
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loerzel



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just picked up a Nook this week and have been really happy with it. I would highly recommend downloading Calibre ebook management software. You can easily convert most file types to EPUB format and side-load them onto the Nook.

Most of my Nook books are actually converted .mobi Amazon books.
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isisaredead



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruby Thursday wrote:
Modernist wrote:
Count me among the defenders of Kindle.

I looked at a Nook [er, 'nook'?] before I left the US. The deciding factor was and will always be the Amazon store experience, which is light-years ahead of B&N. So much easier to find and get what you want, especially if you are old-fashioned like me and actually intend to pay for the written works of other people.

The Nook Color is a pretty slick little faux-tablet though. But it's not as good a pure reader as Kindle, and can't do half as much as a real tablet [e.g. iPad]. Better to have two excellent devices than one in the mushy middle, I think.


And how is a "pure reader" better? Personally I prefer the LCD screen over e-ink. Most of my reading is done at night in a dark room.


yeah, same. on a low brightness level sitting in the dark, a tablet would HAVE to beat a "pure reader".

but whatever. if people want to be tied down to one format or a device that can only be used for one thing, then go ahead.

and did someone seriously pay $300 for a Nook? no wonder i never even CONSIDERED getting one.
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Ruby Thursday



Joined: 29 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

carleverson wrote:
Ruby Thursday wrote:
carleverson wrote:
Is there any way to get a Nook Color from Korea cheaply?


What u mean from korea?

I don't think they are sold here. I ordered mine online. Shipping was $30 and there were no import fees because the device is under $300.


Yes, I'm in Korea.

Did you order from Barnes and Noble?


Got it off The Bay of E's.

And don't bother spending the extra $ for a pre-rooted device. You can do it yourself in a jiff. There are instructional videos all over the interhoses.
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Modernist



Joined: 23 Mar 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What can a full tablet do that a rooted Nook Color can't? I have the android market and my nook can do anything a Galaxy Tab can do...and faster (by overclocking). Seriously, where did you get this information? And how is a "pure reader" better? Personally I prefer the LCD screen over e-ink. Most of my reading is done at night in a dark room.


Ah, yes. Rooting and overclocking and all that. Jailbreaking iPhones, homebrew on the PSP...yes, I know all of these. I have a very limited interest in mutzing around the innards of my devices. If that's a hobby for you, then I'm happy you enjoy it.

Regarding your questions:

1) The main thing my 'real' iPad can do that a Nook can't, rooted and overclocked or not, is offer me a screen size that doesn't make my head hurt. I wouldn't buy a GT either, frankly. I'm not interested in working or playing on an oversized smartphone.

2) I can't say what it is that you're reading. If it's blogs, Facebook posts and MSNBC articles, then I'm sure a Nook is fine. Me, I tend to read 300+ page nonfiction books, and the full contents of the Economist and New Yorker every week. The glare from bright screens hurts my eyes when reading for a sustained time; e-ink is basically like reading an actual page.

I would suggest getting a light if your room is dark though Very Happy
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Ruby Thursday



Joined: 29 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modernist wrote:


Ah, yes. Rooting and overclocking and all that. Jailbreaking iPhones, homebrew on the PSP...yes, I know all of these. I have a very limited interest in mutzing around the innards of my devices. If that's a hobby for you, then I'm happy you enjoy it.

Regarding your questions:

1) The main thing my 'real' iPad can do that a Nook can't, rooted and overclocked or not, is offer me a screen size that doesn't make my head hurt. I wouldn't buy a GT either, frankly. I'm not interested in working or playing on an oversized smartphone.

2) I can't say what it is that you're reading. If it's blogs, Facebook posts and MSNBC articles, then I'm sure a Nook is fine. Me, I tend to read 300+ page nonfiction books, and the full contents of the Economist and New Yorker every week. The glare from bright screens hurts my eyes when reading for a sustained time; e-ink is basically like reading an actual page.

I would suggest getting a light if your room is dark though Very Happy


Thank Mr. Supercilious for the Dave's Douche Post of the Week. You have painted a very vivid picture of the type of guy you are. I-Pad+Starbucks+ polo tucked in to khakis = YOU, evidently.

Blind brand loyalty is short bus thinking (something i'm sure you've been acclimatized to during your formative years) especially when you have ZERO facts to back it up. You're basically just boasting about spending money on a product someone much much smarter than you invented. You deserve a pat on the back for that one, da Vinci.

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The main thing my 'real' iPad can do that a Nook can't, rooted and overclocked or not, is offer me a screen size that doesn't make my head hurt. I wouldn't buy a GT either, frankly. I'm not interested in working or playing on an oversized smartphone.


Super. That's you're preference. Others find the I-Pad too cumbersome. A 7 inch screen is the same size as a page in a soft cover book. But whaves. Different strokes.

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I can't say what it is that you're reading. If it's blogs, Facebook posts and MSNBC articles, then I'm sure a Nook is fine. Me, I tend to read 300+ page nonfiction books, and the full contents of the Economist and New Yorker every week.


WOW! You read 300 page books!!! WTF! OMG!! I've heard of people like you but I thought they only worked for NASA or Harvard or something. Also The Economist AND New York Times?!?!? Those sure are prestigious publications by golly. I didn't know i was dealing with a card carrying member of the Intelligentsia.

I know little things like facts are beneath you, but just for shits and giggles, you do know that an unrooted Nook supports more file formats than any other reader right? And you do know that its equipped with a dimmer and page format option (night reading, sepia b/ground, etc so eye strain is almost unheard of) right? And you do know it has 8GB of internal memory so your impressive 300 PAGE books can be stored and accessed easily, right?

Once you root the device (or mutzing around the innards of [your] devices as you so eloquently put it), which take a whole 5 minutes requiring nothing more than micro SD card, it can be used as a fully functional tablet -- which MANY people see as a HUGE plus and is something a Kindle can't do. But ya, its much more convenient to carry around your massive I-Pad AND Kindle...no doubt in your backpack you cart around with you everywhere.
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Modernist



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did I poke a stick into your hornet's nest or what?

I don't think anything I posted actually merited such a savage response.

Let me just note the following:

1) The iPad is the _only_ Apple product I own. I have never owned an iPhone or any type of MacBook. I didn't buy it because of its brand, I bought it because of its ease of use. I have used SG IIs and IMO they are not as good for browsing the Web and games, especially. I used a Nook Color in the US and it was fine, but again not as good. It's just an opinion, it's not God's word. Neither is yours.

I'm NOT boasting about anything. iPads aren't exactly uncommon in this country and I could care less what you or anyone else thinks of me using one.

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WOW! You read 300 page books!!! WTF! OMG!! I've heard of people like you but I thought they only worked for NASA or Harvard or something. Also The Economist AND New York Times?!?!? Those sure are prestigious publications by golly. I didn't know i was dealing with a card carrying member of the Intelligentsia.


Jesus Christ. A little insecure, are we? My POINT about the books and the magazines was their length. An article on MSNBC, which I can read on an iPad, is at most 2 narrow page-columns. An article in the New Yorker can often run to 20 pages. A quick short story on an iPad is a different thing than reading Oracle Bones on a Kindle, which is I think ~450 pages. It's about stress on the eyes.

The Nook is stuck with its shiny, glossy screen. Turning down brightness settings does little to change that. I wouldn't use an iPad to read either. E-ink on my Kindle is a lovely thing for my reading. If you don't like it, then I guess you made the right choice.

I again could care less if you think I am intelligent or not. Certainly you are leaving little doubt about your own limitations.
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Ruby Thursday



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modernist wrote:
Did I poke a stick into your hornet's nest or what?

I don't think anything I posted actually merited such a savage response.

Let me just note the following:

1) The iPad is the _only_ Apple product I own. I have never owned an iPhone or any type of MacBook. I didn't buy it because of its brand, I bought it because of its ease of use. I have used SG IIs and IMO they are not as good for browsing the Web and games, especially. I used a Nook Color in the US and it was fine, but again not as good. It's just an opinion, it's not God's word. Neither is yours.

I'm NOT boasting about anything. iPads aren't exactly uncommon in this country and I could care less what you or anyone else thinks of me using one.

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WOW! You read 300 page books!!! WTF! OMG!! I've heard of people like you but I thought they only worked for NASA or Harvard or something. Also The Economist AND New York Times?!?!? Those sure are prestigious publications by golly. I didn't know i was dealing with a card carrying member of the Intelligentsia.


Jesus Christ. A little insecure, are we? My POINT about the books and the magazines was their length. An article on MSNBC, which I can read on an iPad, is at most 2 narrow page-columns. An article in the New Yorker can often run to 20 pages. A quick short story on an iPad is a different thing than reading Oracle Bones on a Kindle, which is I think ~450 pages. It's about stress on the eyes.

The Nook is stuck with its shiny, glossy screen. Turning down brightness settings does little to change that. I wouldn't use an iPad to read either. E-ink on my Kindle is a lovely thing for my reading. If you don't like it, then I guess you made the right choice.

I again could care less if you think I am intelligent or not. Certainly you are leaving little doubt about your own limitations.


Pinch to zoom, short bus. Makes reading your little articles easy -- The Economist, Better Homes and Gardens, Playgirl or whatever strikes your ambiguous fancy.

The glossy screen has never been an issue. Stop being such a little *beep*. Pull your panties up like a big girl.
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loerzel



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modernist, certainly the pretentiousness of your statement would not be lost on a patron of the New Yorker.

Ruby Thursday, I'm pretty sure that once you purchase a Barnes & Noble Nook, you lose the right to make snide comments about "Starbucks culture".

E-ink is easier on the eyes than a backlit screen. I don't need to qualify that with an IMHO.

On a side note, I'm posting this from my iPhone, Polo Ralph Lauren shirt neatly tucked into my well-ironed Gap slacks.
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yellowdove



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My husband bought me a Nook Color for Christmas/my birthday before we returned to Korea for our second contract. It has not left my side since. I take it EVERYWHERE - class, on the bus, it even helped me to win a bet at the bar (that had wifi) when I had been out all day and still had it in my purse.

Here is why I LOVE my Nook Color.

1) I torrent most of my books, but if something new comes out I just get my mother in law to buy the book online at the Barnes and Noble website. She has my account info, and as long as your IP address is in the US, you can download books, and they get sent to your Nook once you connect to wifi. Even if you're out of the country.

2) Before I left, I got 3 magazine subscriptions for my husband and I, and they come in every month with no problem, even though we've been in Korea for 5 months now. It's always such a nice surprise when American Photo or Womens Health pops up on my screen, ready to download. And the subscriptions are SO cheap, like $2 a month. (Also, everyone is making a fuss about reading magazine articles and how reading them on an e-reader sucks. The Nook Color has a great feature called "Article Viewer", which zooms in to the article and formats it so it's super easy to read. And you can just flip through the articles like that, no need to go back to the pages with all the ads.)

3) I can format my videos to fit the Nook Color, so its great for when I'm traveling. I've also got music on there as well, so I can listen while I'm reading.

4) Because of the new OS update, they have Adobe Flash player, so you can watch youtube videos and play games. I take it to my classes (which are small, as I'm at a hagwon) and play with my older kids. (www.barryfunenglish.com has perfect games for the Nook. They work really well.) When you watch videos on youtube, btw, they fill up the whole screen, which is such a neat feature.

5) I guess I'm one of the weird ones that has trouble with the E-ink. That hurts my eyes FAR more then my LCD screen. Also, my nook is back lit, of course, so I don't have to carry around a clip on light if I want to read on a dark bus. AND, turning up and down the brightness of the screen is SUPER quick.

6) I like that the keyboard is a touch screen, and hides when you don't need it. It makes the whole surface readable, instead of half of it taken up by a keyboard you need 10% of the time.

The best part is, it's only $250. Honestly, when you think about all it can do, that's not a lot.

I am a definite vote on the positive for you to get a Nook, but if you want a Nook, go for it and get a Nook Color, because they're the best. [/i][/u]
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Modernist



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Modernist, certainly the pretentiousness of your statement would not be lost on a patron of the New Yorker.

Ruby Thursday, I'm pretty sure that once you purchase a Barnes & Noble Nook, you lose the right to make snide comments about "Starbucks culture".


Well now that the mature long-term forumer has stepped in to arbitrate this by placing both parties at fault, I feel much better Rolling Eyes

Also, I can now check off being called both pretentious and a [let's see] cross-dressing, effeminate, mentally challenged, trend-slave douchebag by people on an Internet forum off my list of life experiences. Thank you both very much.

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Here is why I LOVE my Nook Color.


Wow, an intelligent, positive defense of a personal choice, posted without any pitifully unimaginative personal attacks. Apparently it can be done.

Yellowdove, I think if anyone thinking about what to get is like you, they should indeed buy a Nook Color and be happy with it as you are.
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Ruby Thursday



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

loerzel wrote:
Modernist, certainly the pretentiousness of your statement would not be lost on a patron of the New Yorker.

Ruby Thursday, I'm pretty sure that once you purchase a Barnes & Noble Nook, you lose the right to make snide comments about "Starbucks culture".

E-ink is easier on the eyes than a backlit screen. I don't need to qualify that with an IMHO.


Wah wah wah me no want Nook-ie

Jesus H Christ. All the complaining in this thread is embarrassing.

wahh, the LCD screen hurts my eyes

wahh, real books give me paper cuts

wahh, I don't want to go tinkle in a public washroom because men will look at my pee-pee.

Bunch of slack jawed [Mod Edits] around here (rhymes with maggots)
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krats1976



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. You guys do realize you're acting like numbskulls over an internet discussion about ereaders, right? Seriously?

Thanks for those of you who have given productive responses. I'm still on the fence over whether I want a dedicated eReader or a more versatile device, but your responses (less a few obvious ones) have been helpful.

Thanks!
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