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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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 Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:54 am Post subject: M.ed. & CELTA: what job could I get? |
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What would you suggest as the best course of action for a person in my position? I just finished the CELTA course, and will have a Masters of Education August 10th.
I would like to get a university job even in the most rural of locations, but I think applying from abroad, this is unrealistic. My backup plan is to work for a public school within Seoul city limits, networking and making connections. After one year with SMOE, I would then study Korean full time at a language institute such as Yonsei Foreign Language Institute, during which time I could apply for university positions starting in March. Does this sound like a good plan?
Am I too late to get a public school job in Seoul starting in August/September? I fear I am. (I have all the necessary docs in hand.) |
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CarolinaTHeels
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Get a job at an International School. You are way over qualified for hagwons and publicschools (im assuming you are an licensed teacher with a masters in education right?). Once you get an a job at an international school, start applying and looking for university positions. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| CarolinaTHeels wrote: |
| You are way over qualified for hagwons and publicschools |
I wish. With the market the way it is, I am not.
Unfortunately, international schools require as an absolute minimum two years of full time teaching (substitute teaching does not count) as a public school teacher in one's home country. After that it is possible to apply, and even then the jobs must be applied for well in advance and are extremely competitive to get.
I just received word that SMOE is no longer hiring except for March 2012 positions, and I don't want to wait that long. I guess my best bet is GEPIK? |
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ren546
Joined: 17 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| Unfortunately, international schools require as an absolute minimum two years of full time teaching (substitute teaching does not count) as a public school teacher in one's home country. After that it is possible to apply, and even then the jobs must be applied for well in advance and are extremely competitive to get. |
Are you sure about this? I know at least two people who got jobs at international schools without working in their home country first. One of them had two years of experience at a public school in Korea, though, so that might make a difference. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Two years experience as a teaching assistant in a Korean public school doesn't count. As for your friends who were hired by international schools: there are a lot of fake international schools out there- schools that have "international" and "school" in their name, but are not international schools. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Two years experience as a teaching assistant in a Korean public school doesn't count. As for your friends who were hired by international schools: there are a lot of fake international schools out there- schools that have "international" and "school" in their name, but are not international schools. |
"International Schools" may want 2 years post grad experience AND home country licensing BUT will accept those with an M.Ed or B.Ed and 2 years of classroom experience of any kind (including at a PS in Korea) when they are up against the wire and need to fill a teaching spot.
If you have an M.Ed and NO classroom experience / home country licensing then you will start at the bottom like all the rest of the newbie teachers.
If you want to work this year and are NOT in Korea then find a hagwan, get over here and get some classroom time in. Get an extra set of documents ready before you fly and be ready to apply for Seoul Public School positions for next spring. Quit the hagwan, cancel your visa and move to the job you want on a new visa (hence the need for a new set of documents).
If you are IN Korea then hit the bricks with bilingual resume and cover letter in hand and you will find a job in a PS in Seoul for the end of August.
IF you really want a uni position then buy a ticket and be here in December when they start doing interviews. They WON'T hire a green newbie from abroad.
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| CarolinaTHeels wrote: |
| You are way over qualified for hagwons and publicschools |
I wish. With the market the way it is, I am not.
Unfortunately, international schools require as an absolute minimum two years of full time teaching (substitute teaching does not count) as a public school teacher in one's home country. After that it is possible to apply, and even then the jobs must be applied for well in advance and are extremely competitive to get.
I just received word that SMOE is no longer hiring except for March 2012 positions, and I don't want to wait that long. I guess my best bet is GEPIK? |
you are over qualified for ps. they mostly want warm body with ba or bs fresh outta uni so they can pay the minimun.  |
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CarolinaTHeels
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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I dont know who told you that you have to have 2 years back home experience but that is baloney!
There is numerous international job fairs in the US every year.
The best one is at University of Northern Iowa.
There will be schools there from ALL OVER THE WORLD. |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:29 am Post subject: Re: M.ed. & CELTA: what job could I get? |
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What would you suggest as the best course of action for a person in my position? I just finished the CELTA course, and will have a Masters of Education August 10th.
I would like to get a university job even in the most rural of locations, but I think applying from abroad, this is unrealistic. My backup plan is to work for a public school within Seoul city limits, networking and making connections. After one year with SMOE, I would then study Korean full time at a language institute such as Yonsei Foreign Language Institute, during which time I could apply for university positions starting in March. Does this sound like a good plan?
Am I too late to get a public school job in Seoul starting in August/September? I fear I am. (I have all the necessary docs in hand.) |
Those are good quals. The CELTA is just icing on the cake, since many uni. instructors don't have that or the DELTA. The problem now, however, is that you aren't actually in-country. Once you get your feet on the ground, then it's only a matter of time before you land a university teaching job.
However, the quality of that university teaching position isn't guaranteed to be any good. There is a wide variance among Korean university TEFL contracts in terms of compensation, hours in the classroom, vacation time, etc. Many universities don't offer TEFL instructors anything more than the hogwans do. There are some terrible Korean university contracts out there for foreign EFL teachers. |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: M.ed. & CELTA: what job could I get? |
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July last year, you were encouraging people to leave Korea:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=188594&highlight=bartender
Oh the irony! 
How about taking your own advice and becoming a bartender:
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| In the United States, servers and bartenders get paid far more than those of us teaching English in South Korea. Do they need specialized skills to do their job? Not really. How do I feel about making one third the hourly wage of a bartender? Not good. |
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litebear
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Holland
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: M.ed. & CELTA: what job could I get? |
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What would you suggest as the best course of action for a person in my position? I just finished the CELTA course, and will have a Masters of Education August 10th.
I would like to get a university job even in the most rural of locations, but I think applying from abroad, this is unrealistic. My backup plan is to work for a public school within Seoul city limits, networking and making connections. After one year with SMOE, I would then study Korean full time at a language institute such as Yonsei Foreign Language Institute, during which time I could apply for university positions starting in March. Does this sound like a good plan?
Am I too late to get a public school job in Seoul starting in August/September? I fear I am. (I have all the necessary docs in hand.) |
Why bother?
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=184862 |
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jstubley80
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I've got an MA and a CELTA and I'm just about to leave the UK for my second stint at Korean universities, FWIW. Had no teaching experience whatsoever, CELTA practice aside, when I got on the plane in 2009. |
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soupsandwich
Joined: 20 May 2011
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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OP,
Don't waste your time in Korea with your qualifcations.
If you have the money, get to Thailand and secure your own job.......
Highspeed qualifcations shoudl not wasted on a dirthole country like Korea....based on their internaitonal TOEFL scores, you'd be wasting your time.
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ren546
Joined: 17 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| Two years experience as a teaching assistant in a Korean public school doesn't count. As for your friends who were hired by international schools: there are a lot of fake international schools out there- schools that have "international" and "school" in their name, but are not international schools. |
Actually, they aren't "fake" international schools. Ask some people working in international schools and you will find that there are quite a few who do not have experience in their home country. Licensing, yes, but home country experience is not a necessary requirement. An asset, but not a requirement. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Would you consider this to be an international school? I wouldn't. To me, teaching 50 hours a week (anything over 40, really) for 2.2 seems like not a good deal.
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International School 1 Position in Yong in, Gyeonggi-do
- Location: Yong in, Gyeonggi-do
- Area information : http://en.yonginsi.net
- School information : http://www.thcis.com/
- Starting date: 25th July or 8th August, 2011
- Age group: Middle school students - high school students
- Working hours: 8:00am-5:45pm
- Working days: Monday-Friday
- Salary offered: 2.2 - up
- Vacation: around 30days/year
- Dormitory room furnished with 3 meals, medical insurance 50/50, severance payment, roundtrip airfare
# Qualifications
- Teachers should be a Christian/ Teachers have to join a chapel (set on Wed.)/ Teachers should drink on alcohol |
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