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angma



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david



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What type of person employs somebody for seven years without reason? You were obviously doing something right.

As for a parental reccommendation: Acquiring one could show the employer that you really want the job and it could also let them know how respected you are by a parent of a student. Why not?
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Bruce W Sims



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations on winning the adulation and respect of your parents......

now..... GET IT DOWN ON PAPER.

I appreciate that you are loved and respected, and I understand that the parents may well support you in your current situation. Two things need to be kept in mind.

a.) Parents and teachers are notoriously fickle and their adulation can turn on a dime. Get a rough draft of a LOR and have the parents consider signing it en masse, or as individuals with editing.

b.) Adulation carries only so far in the application process. In my own case I have ten years of superior ratings by my college students. The common response when I bring these to bear in a process is a hearty "thats very impressive" before moving on to something else. FWIW.

Best Wishes,

Bruce
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Bruce W Sims



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

angma wrote:
...uh ... I've learned a lot about acronyms on the internet, but I don't know FWIW. Forgive my ignorance...


"FWIW" = "For What(ever) It's Worth"

BTW: Here in the States there is a common wisdom in the professional world that one begins organizing for the NEXT employment the day they start a job. I don't mean this literally, but the spirit is that one is always looking ahead. In the case of your current employer you have mentioned that the school is not doing well. Certainly, you don't want to wait until you are standing on the sidewalk before you start organizing your recommendations, right?

Best Wishes,

Bruce
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce W Sims wrote:
Congratulations on winning the adulation and respect of your parents......

now..... GET IT DOWN ON PAPER.

I appreciate that you are loved and respected, and I understand that the parents may well support you in your current situation. Two things need to be kept in mind.

a.) Parents and teachers are notoriously fickle and their adulation can turn on a dime. Get a rough draft of a LOR and have the parents consider signing it en masse, or as individuals with editing.

b.) Adulation carries only so far in the application process. In my own case I have ten years of superior ratings by my college students. The common response when I bring these to bear in a process is a hearty "thats very impressive" before moving on to something else. FWIW.

Best Wishes,

Bruce


Koreans generally don't do paper recommendations. Phone calls are the norm.
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goat



Joined: 23 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce W Sims wrote:
Congratulations on winning the adulation and respect of your parents......

now..... GET IT DOWN ON PAPER.

I appreciate that you are loved and respected, and I understand that the parents may well support you in your current situation. Two things need to be kept in mind.

a.) Parents and teachers are notoriously fickle and their adulation can turn on a dime. Get a rough draft of a LOR and have the parents consider signing it en masse, or as individuals with editing.

b.) Adulation carries only so far in the application process. In my own case I have ten years of superior ratings by my college students. The common response when I bring these to bear in a process is a hearty "thats very impressive" before moving on to something else. FWIW.

Best Wishes,

Bruce


FWIW. Advice like 'GET IT DOWN ON PAPER' shows that you know little about how things work in Korea.

FWIW. Your ten years of superior ratings don't and won't mean squat here. Toot your own horn, boast, blah blah blah... FWIW.
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goat



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce W Sims wrote:
angma wrote:
...uh ... I've learned a lot about acronyms on the internet, but I don't know FWIW. Forgive my ignorance...


"FWIW" = "For What(ever) It's Worth"

BTW: Here in the States there is a common wisdom in the professional world that one begins organizing for the NEXT employment the day they start a job. I don't mean this literally, but the spirit is that one is always looking ahead. In the case of your current employer you have mentioned that the school is not doing well. Certainly, you don't want to wait until you are standing on the sidewalk before you start organizing your recommendations, right?

Best Wishes,

Bruce


Exactly, your still in the states. Blah, blah, blah...
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Greenman



Joined: 08 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously Bruce, I can sense you mean well. I can.

However, you are not and have never been in Korea. Therefore the advice you so strongly give is misinformed at best. Arrogant and annoying at worst.

Not trying to get on your back. Just a friendly note to say that it can be seen as condescending around these parts.

Peace
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