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shifter2009
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin
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| robinsoncrusoe wrote: |
Thanks to FDNY for not allowing such a stupid rule like Cohiba's to die off like it should.
Everytime Cohiba's rule appears to be on the verge of extinction, some idiot has to copy-paste it from some 2003 thread. |
Anyone who brings up that stupid thing should be beaten with a stick. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| The rule can still have some uses I guess. But it's not quite what it was. There are more foriegners and people who can speak English even in smaller cities. But there is a lacking of international food and not high numbers of K chicks who speak English like there would be in Seoul. So, that part of his rule would still apply. As for having people to hang out with there is no problem in smaller towns anymore. |
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shostahoosier
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| marsavalanche wrote: |
I made a push to settle for only Seoul when I came here. Haven't looked back since. All of my friends from outside of Seoul visit me in SEOUL, not the other way around.
Any other questions?
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Sounds like you're missing out on a lot. |
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isisaredead
Joined: 18 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| shostahoosier wrote: |
| marsavalanche wrote: |
I made a push to settle for only Seoul when I came here. Haven't looked back since. All of my friends from outside of Seoul visit me in SEOUL, not the other way around.
Any other questions?
lol |
Sounds like you're missing out on a lot. |
yeah, mars' friends sound loyal and cool. |
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TeaTime
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Sometimes when I read comments about people's startled reactions to rude a-holes I wonder if it mostly comes down to them having never experienced being an ethnic minority. Some of the situations described sound a lot like the anti-hispanic attitudes of the area I grew up in - someone speaking spanish is almost immediately suspected of being a freeloader/criminal/trashy. White privilege is working out quite well for me... I suspect it'll be quite a shock when I actually get to Korea. |
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ed4444
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Busan is the 2nd most International City in Korea but that doesn't exactly make it a melting pot.
It is certainly not as welcoming and convenient as Seoul but I think it has more character. The people are brash and direct but more honest and helpful than Seoulites IMO. It just takes a bit longer to get used to.
There is a lot more to the place than just Haeundae beach. the Taejungdae Cliffs, Yonggungsa Temple, the mountains, lots of islands nearby, the rough sailor and port hangouts, the huge dept stores, the Art Galleries of Dalmaji Hill etc etc...
Also its a short ferry ride to Japan when you need a break from Korea  |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:11 am Post subject: |
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i love Busan. Its a fun city. But I do speak Korean, so I dont need Itaewon or the English teachers watering holes. But theyre now down at Haeundae!
I do like Busan people alot. theyre cool and direct. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:35 am Post subject: |
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| yellowdove wrote: |
Maybe not total rudeness. But I have experienced things from people shoving me to get past me to board the bus, to people purposely closing the door behind them at a store so that I would have to open it myself, except that they were literally 1 foot in front of me, and saw me coming. I've also experienced having someone call the cops on me and my husband for sitting outside a GS25, having a drink and watching the world go by, just because we were speaking English. (They also threw a water balloon at us as well.) But that's a whole different story.
Thanks for pointing out my overuse of the word 'total'.  |
No worries.
I got what you meant but the post just seemed a tad overboard. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:37 am Post subject: |
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| shostahoosier wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| yellowdove wrote: |
| I said that I wasn't going to post on this thread again, but I thought I would chime in on the rudeness issue. I find that people in this country are rude no matter where you are. My husband and I have experienced total rudeness in every single city we've visited and lived in - Daejeon, Busan, Gwangju, Seoul, Masan - and the small country places too, like Muju and Damyang. I think the only place we didn't encounter rudeness was in Inje when we went rafting. It doesn't matter WHERE you are, this country is full of selfish people. You will also find the opposite, complete unselfish people who will go out of their way to help you and/or make you feel welcome. You just have to take this country's attitude with a grain of salt. |
Total rudeness?
Pray tell what is that?
Are there levels of rudeness like some alert meter?
25% rudeness, half power rudeness, total rudeness, over the limit rudeness, double rudeness....wow 
As for the country being FULL of selfish people that is a pretty loud statement and dire judgement. But hey, this is Daves afterall, and it must be hard to live in a TOTAL rude country TOTALLY full of selfish people. |
I see where you're going Patrick and understand why you're annoyed...but I think the point that yellowdove was trying to make is that there are rude people everywhere in Korea....as well as friendly people...and that living in a particular city doesnt shield you from that. |
I got that, I was just trying to poke fun at the overusage of the word Total.
So sure Korea has rude people all over the place as well as kind and generous people. That kind of conclusion is a bit like saying water is wet
I do get that this poster has had tough experiences and is pretty sensitive to different ways of doing things...heck everyone reacts differently to these things! |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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That may be so, but I worked with a guy who had worked in Daejon, we were in Gimhae (just outside of Busan). He quit his job early (after 6 months) and moved back to Daejon because he couldn't stand the rudeness of the people in the Busan area.
I'm sure there are rude people all over, as well as polite people, but Busan does have a reputation for having overly rude, pushy and aggressive people.
This is not some myth that weigookins dreamed up either. |
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FDNY
Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| definitely maybe wrote: |
| FDNY = Cohiba |
Cohiba is a shadow. Cohiba is a theory. Cohiba is a dream.
Cohiba is the American Dream. Cohiba is fun. Cohiba is ESL.
Cohiba is a cigar. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
That may be so, but I worked with a guy who had worked in Daejon, we were in Gimhae (just outside of Busan). He quit his job early (after 6 months) and moved back to Daejon because he couldn't stand the rudeness of the people in the Busan area.
I'm sure there are rude people all over, as well as polite people, but Busan does have a reputation for having overly rude, pushy and aggressive people.
This is not some myth that weigookins dreamed up either. |
It does have that rep with Koreans from other cities.
Seoul has a rep for having snobby people and people from the area around Yeosu are famed for being arrogant....
This sounds eerily like: Quebecers are a bunch of whiners (from other Canadian provinces), Torontonians are cold and arrogant (from the rest of the Canada), Albertans are annopying rednecks (from people in central and eastern Canada), or the neverending Newfie jokes... |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Dave's ESL Cafe, lecturing people on rudeness....
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| Anyone who brings up that stupid thing should be beaten with a stick. |
Maybe the ugly stick that was Cohiba's avatar. Seriously, the guy had a porn star, and an ugly one at that, as his avatar. Doesn't that say enough?
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all the subways closed in busan. the last Subway in Daegu closed in April (in front of GyoDae). not enough business.
the local dont like to pay that much for food that they cant bond over and is unfamilairt to them. |
Or maybe because Subway is crap? Quizno's ain't much better.
Now if Jimmy John's failed here, then that would be the fault of the locals. |
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korea87
Joined: 28 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| ed4444 wrote: |
Busan is the 2nd most International City in Korea but that doesn't exactly make it a melting pot.
It is certainly not as welcoming and convenient as Seoul but I think it has more character. The people are brash and direct but more honest and helpful than Seoulites IMO. It just takes a bit longer to get used to.
There is a lot more to the place than just Haeundae beach. the Taejungdae Cliffs, Yonggungsa Temple, the mountains, lots of islands nearby, the rough sailor and port hangouts, the huge dept stores, the Art Galleries of Dalmaji Hill etc etc...
Also its a short ferry ride to Japan when you need a break from Korea |
I am actually a black female. i think Korea has the rudest people EVER. I've been to homogeneous areas from Western/Eastern Europe and South America. And I never had real problem with staring or really rude comments/mannerism. I hope people understand that despite Korea being a homogeneous country that this is not the norm for all homogeneous countries. And the place where I was in South America, they have never met a black person but they were still very kind and friendly. A little too friendly that I sometimes it was hard for me to deal with it. But I got over it by seeing my wrong. But Korea it is so much harder to be understanding because the people can be soooo rude without really cause.I understand its a cultural thing. But don't fool yourself in thinking that its about being a ethnic minority. I also spoke another language because of my family's orgin. And there were stereotypes attached to it but most of the time it was fine. I have never experience this degree of hostility to it. And I am not the only one. Many of my friends have dealt with it, too. But many stick to it. I am from the Northeast. There is racism there but its not as blunt as the south. So many southern black friends know how to handle it better than me. Many them state at least they are not being physically attacked because of their skin color. So the rude comments don't faze them. |
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Murakano
Joined: 10 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| robinsoncrusoe wrote: |
Thanks to FDNY for not allowing such a stupid rule like Cohiba's to die off like it should.
Everytime Cohiba's rule appears to be on the verge of extinction, some idiot has to copy-paste it from some 2003 thread. |
100% agree with that.......there`s always someone. Busan has changed a lot since that archaic rule anyway.
Personally I think Busan is a great city to live in. Sure there is not as much diversity in terms of restaurants but you will not have to live on Korean food everyday either. There are a very good selection of international restaurants around and once you get to know the locals there you will know where they are.
The nightlife is pretty good too, especially Haeundae for spring/summer/fall when the weather is nice.....and you have Gyungsungdae (경성대) which I prefer to the Seoul nightlife areas....... Seomyeon is not bad too, though smaller. Even though I live in Seoul (in terms of the foreigner frequented / popular areas), I don`t think Hongdae is all that....Gangnam overpriced.....Itaewon....well......hmmm
Oh and clean air/mountains nearby and a short ferry ride to Japan if you ever need. You`re only 2 hours on the KTX if you have the urge to visit Seoul.....I should be back in Busan (which I might be soon)
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