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Yonsei University at Wonju?
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:41 pm    Post subject: Yonsei University at Wonju? Reply with quote

Has anyone worked for this university? Or know anything about them? They just posted an advert http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=48725

Thanks!
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zappadelta



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3. Teaching Load

12 hours per week

6. Job Description:

Professors are required to teach university credit classes 15 hours per week. Professors may be required to teach up to 3 hours per week of overtime. (Additional hours beyond the contractual 15 hours per week are compensated at the overtime rate of 30,000 won.)

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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I noticed that too. I odn't get it. It says 12 hours, then 15, but then 3 OT which is up to 18. Do you happen to know anyone who's taught there?
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zappadelta



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just cubanlord, but years ago
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't he just there abotu a year ago? Do you know if he liked it?
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TECO



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Yeah, I noticed that too. I odn't get it. It says 12 hours, then 15, but then 3 OT which is up to 18. Do you happen to know anyone who's taught there?


Korean universities are famous for adverts like this.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They changed it. It now says 15.
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Feloria



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing about Yonsei University--and this is neither good or bad--is that it is Christian University.
Students don't have to be Christian to attend, but they do have to attend
'Chapel', and take Christian classes.
It has been referred to as a "Mission School", so it could be kind of strict in that regard.
I'm not sure how instructors are expected to behave, but they are held to pretty high 'moral' standards.

I started to apply there when I started the job hunt process, and on the application, they asked what my religion was-I stopped the process right there.
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Bruce W Sims



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I guess we Pagans may not be able to get a stipend to cover our weekly animal sacrifices, huh? Bummer.

BTW: I'm a bit short on materials. Does anyone know a location in Korea where I can find a skull, a monkey's paw and a quart of goats blood?

Inquiring minds want to know. Wink

Best Wishes,

Bruce
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Feloria



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Har! Har!

I knew you were a 'stickler', Bruce!
I'm neither here nor there when it comes to religion-whatever floats yer boat!
It's still a good idea to know if religion is a major part of a school's/Unis curriculum, though.
I have a friend who taught at a Christian(I think Protestant) Uni, and he was "strongly encouraged" almost daily to do 'mission oriented' activities whenever he had free time--hand out religious pamphlets and such.
It was also mandatory to attend church services every Sunday.
Now this is all well and good if you ARE a Christian, and WANT to do these things--but if you aren't, or just aren't that 'hard core'; teaching at a Christian Uni could be a miserable experience.
OHHH_the worst thing was when 400,000 won was deducted from his Dec paycheck as the yearly 'donation to the mission'.
This wasn't in the contract-a complete surprise. YIKES!!

By the way Bruce; where do you live in Chicago? I lived there for almost 6 years--3 at Lasalle and Division, and 2.5 at Clark and Belmont.
I love the "Windy City"!

P.S.-I know you can get some quality goats blood in Andersonville!! Twisted Evil
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Bruce W Sims



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feloria wrote:
Har! Har!

I knew you were a 'stickler', Bruce!
I'm neither here nor there when it comes to religion-whatever floats yer boat!
It's still a good idea to know if religion is a major part of a school's/Unis curriculum, though.
I have a friend who taught at a Christian(I think Protestant) Uni, and he was "strongly encouraged" almost daily to do 'mission oriented' activities whenever he had free time--hand out religious pamphlets and such.
It was also mandatory to attend church services every Sunday.
Now this is all well and good if you ARE a Christian, and WANT to do these things--but if you aren't, or just aren't that 'hard core'; teaching at a Christian Uni could be a miserable experience.
OHHH_the worst thing was when 400,000 won was deducted from his Dec paycheck as the yearly 'donation to the mission'.
This wasn't in the contract-a complete surprise. YIKES!!

By the way Bruce; where do you live in Chicago? I lived there for almost 6 years--3 at Lasalle and Division, and 2.5 at Clark and Belmont.
I love the "Windy City"!

P.S.-I know you can get some quality goats blood in Andersonville!! Twisted Evil


And I think thats the pivotal point. If a person works at an institution thats asscoiated with some religious denomination and is routinely invited to attend services or volunteer for some extracurricular activity thats one thing. I'm not a real big fan of compelling a person to participate.

I can't believe your friend was dinged for a contribution to the mission!!

BTW: I've been north of the city since 1993. If you remember 95th and the Dan Ryan, I was just a few blocks west of that. I'm thinking that if they give me a job up close to Korea's DMZ I should be right at home!! Rolling Eyes

Best Wishes,

Bruce
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feloria wrote:
I started to apply there when I started the job hunt process, and on the application, they asked what my religion was-I stopped the process right there.


That question is NOT on the Wonju application. Maybe the Seoul one, but I just filled ou thte Wonju one and it's not there.
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Bruce W Sims



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Feloria wrote:
I started to apply there when I started the job hunt process, and on the application, they asked what my religion was-I stopped the process right there.


That question is NOT on the Wonju application. Maybe the Seoul one, but I just filled ou thte Wonju one and it's not there.


Did they ask you any demographic questions such as age, ethic group or race, political affiliation, sex or sexual orientation, income. In the States employers can get themselves in quite a bind, and in short order, but I'm guessing that things are still pretty loose with the Korean employers.

Best Wishes,

Bruce
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Bibbitybop



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All Yonsei has instructors do is fill out a form stating religious views. Non-believers can simply state "I respect all religions and believe they can live in harmony in the global world" or something similar and there is no issue. The religion issue will never be an issue or obstacle to your work there.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce W Sims wrote:
Did they ask you any demographic questions such as age, ethic group or race, political affiliation, sex or sexual orientation, income. In the States employers can get themselves in quite a bind, and in short order, but I'm guessing that things are still pretty loose with the Korean employers.


Age, which is fine, since it's on my ARC anyways. NO enthic ingo, political stuff, sexual orientation, nor income. The only personal question was if any family members were accompanying you. That's it. Things are pretty loose in most parts of the world. It's not just KOrea. The US is just super politically correct and oversensitive. You can't even put your photo on your CV there.
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