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withnail
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 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:01 pm Post subject: Calling Ttompatz - E2 to E1 Transfer question? |
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Just thought I'd share a bit of info to any Brits who are changing jobs - where the new employer wants to change you from E2 to E1.
I wasted quite a bit of cash so please profit from my experience.
1. Criminal Record Check not needed!
(I sent off for one and was just about to send it off to the Foreign & Commonwealth office in Milton Keynes for an Apostille - 55 quid in total - when my new university told me it wasn't needed!!)
2. Apostille/Notarisation for Degree Certficate - not needed!
(I spent 54,000 won for a certified copy of my degree from the British Embassy and 60,000 won getting the British Council to verify it - all for nought!!)
3. Photocopies of all docs - OK!
The good news for me is that I could have wasted a lot of money sending my docs off to England for apostilles.
All of this stuff, whilst necessary when changing employer E2 to E2 - is not needed for E2 - E1.
Hope that helps someone out there...
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:01 am Post subject: |
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And even if it was, you would have fallen under the grace period (2011) and not needed to do it anyway.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| What's the "grace period"? |
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| withnail wrote: |
| What's the "grace period"? |
For anyone who is here on an E2 when the changes occurred (dec, 2010); the requirement for national CBC and degree apostille they were given 1 year of grace (2011) or 1 change of status (renewal or transfer) before they were required to get these documents on file.
Being from the UK your CBC was already "national" and would probably have had an apostille when you applied for your last visa.
The changes (CBC) primarily affect ONLY Americans - where national checks weren't required until Kimmi discovered that people could get around a positive record by getting a CBC from another state.
Almost anyone else will have a minimum of fuss obtaining an extension or transfer. In fact, under the new rules, it will be easier for most because of the reduced paperwork required and now most people can transfer without the need of a visa run.
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seoul101
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:52 am Post subject: |
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withnail,
What documents did you need in order to change to an E1? Does the same apply when renewing?
I didn't have to get any documents for my last renewal thanks to the grace period ttompatz mentioned, but from what I understand they will be wanting an apostilled degree copy if I renew once more (in Feb). |
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withnail
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Hi
They wanted photocopies of Bachelors/Masters degrees, transcripts, photocopy of passport page, 3 photos, signed contract and "certificates of employment". The new university then dealt with kimmi.
The only things that had to be original were:
1. BA transcript
2. Certificates of Employment
For the latter, they wanted either the proper Korean doc that you have to request from a previous Korean employer, or a reference from a native speaker Head Instructor is ok so long as it includes the dates you worked there and a signature.
I had to revisit former employers to get these and they are to go back over at least 3 years but the more the better. |
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withnail
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Ttompatz
So when my old E2 visa expired, I did the trip to Fukuoka and am now back in Korea on a 90 day tourist stamp.
I just got an email from the new university saying that Seoul Kimmi have accepted my new E1 application and have given me my new visa issuance number so I guess I'm all set to go back to Fukuoka again.
But I am just wondering....er, why do you think it is necessary for me to leave again?
I just don't get it. Korean Immigration in Seoul have accepted my new employers' application on my behalf for the new E1 visa and have given us the number...
It seems really silly to have to leave the country again...
So I asked my new university's admin to call Seoul kimmi and explain it to me.
Here is the explanation they gave:
Having talked with Korean immigration, it was found that you CAN apply for a new visa inside Korea. HOWEVER, it is going to be very risky due to the fact that once you apply for a new visa inside Korea, they will judge you again and we can NOT guarantee that you will have a new visa after the judgement (If you fail, it will be very complicating).
Therefore, it is safer to leave Korea with an attempt to have a new visa outside Korea (This will take time).
So they mention that it IS possible to do this bit in Korea but he mentions a significant risk factor. I don't understand this part. What is the risk?
Seoul Kimmi received all my docs and the docs from my new university and granted the new visa number. Why would I need to be "judged" again? They have only just accepted the application! And it would be Seoul Kimmi that I would go to with my visa issuance number to get my passport pressed with the new visa. They did the "judging"!!!
In other words it is the SAME PEOPLE - so what is the risk and what is the problem?
I'd love to know the reason for this. Now, I anticipate you will say "Korean Law dictates that all new applications for visas are made outside Korea" and that is fine but I would really like to know the rationale if there is one.
Can you help? |
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| withnail wrote: |
Ttompatz
So when my old E2 visa expired, I did the trip to Fukuoka and am now back in Korea on a 90 day tourist stamp.
I just got an email from the new university saying that Seoul Kimmi have accepted my new E1 application and have given me my new visa issuance number so I guess I'm all set to go back to Fukuoka again.
But I am just wondering....er, why do you think it is necessary for me to leave again?
I just don't get it. Korean Immigration in Seoul have accepted my new employers' application on my behalf for the new E1 visa and have given us the number...
It seems really silly to have to leave the country again...
So I asked my new university's admin to call Seoul kimmi and explain it to me.
Here is the explanation they gave:
Having talked with Korean immigration, it was found that you CAN apply for a new visa inside Korea. HOWEVER, it is going to be very risky due to the fact that once you apply for a new visa inside Korea, they will judge you again and we can NOT guarantee that you will have a new visa after the judgement (If you fail, it will be very complicating).
Therefore, it is safer to leave Korea with an attempt to have a new visa outside Korea (This will take time).
So they mention that it IS possible to do this bit in Korea but he mentions a significant risk factor. I don't understand this part. What is the risk?
Seoul Kimmi received all my docs and the docs from my new university and granted the new visa number. Why would I need to be "judged" again? They have only just accepted the application! And it would be Seoul Kimmi that I would go to with my visa issuance number to get my passport pressed with the new visa. They did the "judging"!!!
In other words it is the SAME PEOPLE - so what is the risk and what is the problem?
I'd love to know the reason for this. Now, I anticipate you will say "Korean Law dictates that all new applications for visas are made outside Korea" and that is fine but I would really like to know the rationale if there is one.
Can you help? |
Take the visa run to Osaka.
If you are footing the bill you can get it done for about 600k won (air and hotel included) and the process is an over-nighter.
They do NOT (as a policy - regardless of what you may have read or heard) change peoples status from a non-visa entry to a work visa unless you are talking about investing hundreds of thousands of dollars and want an investors visa.
There is no logic to it other than the simple fact that the western countries we come from won't allow Koreans to change their status "in country". Reciprocity is king.
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withnail
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Thx.
Although the Fukuoka run seems cheaper than Osaka. Several days ago Kangsan Travel did me a 2 night deal (return on the Beetle from Busan & 2 nights in a hotel) for 340,000. Another 30,000 won for the return Daegu-Busan KTX brought the whole thing home for under 400,000.
Maybe you know something I don't (extremely likely) for example that Osaka processes visas faster or maybe you just think that for someone who's done Fukuoka, Osaka would be a nice change...? |
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| withnail wrote: |
Thx.
Although the Fukuoka run seems cheaper than Osaka. Several days ago Kangsan Travel did me a 2 night deal (return on the Beetle from Busan & 2 nights in a hotel) for 340,000. Another 30,000 won for the return Daegu-Busan KTX brought the whole thing home for under 400,000.
Maybe you know something I don't (extremely likely) for example that Osaka processes visas faster or maybe you just think that for someone who's done Fukuoka, Osaka would be a nice change...? |
From the north 1/2 of the country the Osaka run is usually more convenient.
Catch a morning flight to Osaka. Catch the train to the consulate.
Drop off your forms.
Spend the rest of the day sightseeing.
Return after lunch the next day to pick up your passport.
Catch your flight home (in time for dinner).
Trains and boats are a bit cheaper but you end up spending a lot longer traveling and transferring. Just a matter of convenience.
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