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ItsCalledLivin
Joined: 26 Apr 2011
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 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject: What criminal ofenses will bar my E-2 Visa app? |
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So I've had a few incidents but I've only been "charged" for one of them and I just had it expunged. Here they are:
-Minor Driving w/ alcohol level above .04 (17 years old, diversion program and the case was dropped)
-Using false i.d. to purchase alcohol (20 years old, no arrest, diversion program and no charges)
-Public urination (21 years old, no arrest, found innocent in court, no charges)
-Misdemeanor vandalism (21 years old, arrested & charged, charges expunged later upon request)
So I guess technically I should have no criminal record but I don't know what's gonna show up on the FBI background check.
My questions are:
1. What's going to show up on the FBI background check?
2. What offenses will cause my Visa to be denied?
3. Should I start looking for a job in a different country?
Thanks for the help!
-G |
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Gorf
Joined: 25 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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If you've been arrested it will show up on the FBI check. If you haven't it just says "NO ARREST RECORD"
Unless you've had that arrests expunged, it's unlikely you'll get a job here. If you have, well, who knows? The only way to find out is to order one.
P.S. Hopefully if you do get to Korea you'll leave the kind of immaturity that got you busted those four times at home. The last thing Korea needs is more immature foreigners, I hope you know what I mean, no offense. We take care of kids. |
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marsavalanche
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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You won't have a "no record found" on your CBC. Better start practicing Chinese.
And public urination? Seriously? Jesus, it's times like these I'm GLAD anyone with a criminal history isn't allowed here. |
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jazblanc77
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| marsavalanche wrote: |
You won't have a "no record found" on your CBC. Better start practicing Chinese.
And public urination? Seriously? Jesus, it's times like these I'm GLAD anyone with a criminal history isn't allowed here. |
Now go back and read the OP. It seems to me that this trouble maker will be just fine since the only thing he was actually charged with was expunged. |
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marsavalanche
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| jazblanc77 wrote: |
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You won't have a "no record found" on your CBC. Better start practicing Chinese.
And public urination? Seriously? Jesus, it's times like these I'm GLAD anyone with a criminal history isn't allowed here. |
Now go back and read the OP. It seems to me that this trouble maker will be just fine since the only thing he was actually charged with was expunged. |
There have been people who have had their records expunged and it's still showed up on the CBC stating "it was expunged yadda yadda yadda" in which Kimmi will reject automatically, since anything beyong "no record found" gets rejected.
Now go run along kid. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| marsavalanche wrote: |
| jazblanc77 wrote: |
| marsavalanche wrote: |
You won't have a "no record found" on your CBC. Better start practicing Chinese.
And public urination? Seriously? Jesus, it's times like these I'm GLAD anyone with a criminal history isn't allowed here. |
Now go back and read the OP. It seems to me that this trouble maker will be just fine since the only thing he was actually charged with was expunged. |
There have been people who have had their records expunged and it's still showed up on the CBC stating "it was expunged yadda yadda yadda" in which Kimmi will reject automatically, since anything beyong "no record found" gets rejected.
Now go run along kid. |
Except this isn't true, as there are people with minor offenses on their records who are teaching here currently.
As for public urination: add this to the list of things that will get you barred from Korea but never arrested in Korea. Not that it's unjust in the least, just saying. |
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jazblanc77
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| marsavalanche wrote: |
| jazblanc77 wrote: |
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You won't have a "no record found" on your CBC. Better start practicing Chinese.
And public urination? Seriously? Jesus, it's times like these I'm GLAD anyone with a criminal history isn't allowed here. |
Now go back and read the OP. It seems to me that this trouble maker will be just fine since the only thing he was actually charged with was expunged. |
There have been people who have had their records expunged and it's still showed up on the CBC stating "it was expunged yadda yadda yadda" in which Kimmi will reject automatically, since anything beyong "no record found" gets rejected.
Now go run along kid. |
ROFLOL... kid?!
I was in Korea when you were still in middle school! |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| jazblanc77 wrote: |
| marsavalanche wrote: |
| jazblanc77 wrote: |
| marsavalanche wrote: |
You won't have a "no record found" on your CBC. Better start practicing Chinese.
And public urination? Seriously? Jesus, it's times like these I'm GLAD anyone with a criminal history isn't allowed here. |
Now go back and read the OP. It seems to me that this trouble maker will be just fine since the only thing he was actually charged with was expunged. |
There have been people who have had their records expunged and it's still showed up on the CBC stating "it was expunged yadda yadda yadda" in which Kimmi will reject automatically, since anything beyong "no record found" gets rejected.
Now go run along kid. |
ROFLOL... kid?!
I was in Korea when you were still in middle school! |
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marsavalanche
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Yet I have more reliable advice about the E-2 visa process than you.
Did I say kid? I'm sorry. I meant troll. |
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jazblanc77
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Yet I have more reliable advice about the E-2 visa process than you.
Did I say kid? I'm sorry. I meant troll. |
OOH OH OUCH!
OP, go ahead and process your CBC. The worst that can happen is you get denied. As another poster said, there are other's who have gotten through the process with minor charges on their records and last I checked, Immi doesn't employ anyone on E2s, so who is the naysayer to speak in absolutes. Nothing gained if nothing risked!
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oldtrafford
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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A rap sheet as long as a baby's arm!!  I would say slim to none and slim's out of town!!  |
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dmwhitfi
Joined: 16 Feb 2011
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My best friend was arrested and finger printed twice- once for public intoxication and once for another small misdemeanor (something drinking related, but don't remember for what specifically off the top of my head). Another one of his friends had an underage drinking arrest and nothing came back. Both received their FBI CBC and no records were found. Unfortunately, idiots on this board don't know how the FBI collects information. The NCIC only obtains arrest records if the county or department forwards the arrest records to the state office, which in turn must pass the arrest off to the FBI. If you're arrested in a college town for instance (where the vast majority of police arrests are drinking related), chances are they just keep your record on file local and don't bother submitting it to the national database. They just want the revenue and don't want to submit hundreds of small class misdemeanors up to the state and/or DC. Additionally, many offices recognize that these national databases are now being used for such things, and do not submit them for altruistic reasons and not just because they are indolent.
I suggest running the check (it is inexpensive), and seeing what comes back. It's 50-50, but most certainly worth a shot- trust me.
To the individual being critical of the public urination arrest: What male on this board hasn't urinated outside before? Let's ban them all from teaching in Korea! People's goofiness abounds to new levels. |
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oldtrafford
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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To the individual being critical of the public urination arrest: What male on this board hasn't urinated outside before? Let's ban them all from teaching in Korea! People's goofiness abounds to new levels.
Couldn't agree more!! What the hell does this have to do with teaching. I got a DVI way back when, you live and learn and I've never done it since. Luckily I was not on an E2 though it was a government job that involved secret service clearance!!! |
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SoylaMBPolymath
Joined: 21 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:35 am Post subject: |
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My best friend was arrested and finger printed twice- once for public intoxication and once for another small misdemeanor (something drinking related, but don't remember for what specifically off the top of my head). Another one of his friends had an underage drinking arrest and nothing came back. Both received their FBI CBC and no records were found. Unfortunately, idiots on this board don't know how the FBI collects information. The NCIC only obtains arrest records if the county or department forwards the arrest records to the state office, which in turn must pass the arrest off to the FBI. If you're arrested in a college town for instance (where the vast majority of police arrests are drinking related), chances are they just keep your record on file local and don't bother submitting it to the national database. They just want the revenue and don't want to submit hundreds of small class misdemeanors up to the state and/or DC. Additionally, many offices recognize that these national databases are now being used for such things, and do not submit them for altruistic reasons and not just because they are indolent.
I suggest running the check (it is inexpensive), and seeing what comes back. It's 50-50, but most certainly worth a shot- trust me.
To the individual being critical of the public urination arrest: What male on this board hasn't urinated outside before? Let's ban them all from teaching in Korea! People's goofiness abounds to new levels. |
I won't go so far as to call people "idiots", but agree with this poster that there is a penchant for oversimplification on this board when it comes to the question of arrests and FBI CBCs. It is not cut and dry. If you were arrested it does not definitively mean you will have a background check with an arrest record. If you were fingerprinted, it doesn't mean that you will have an arrest record. It depends on your state's reporting practices and how statutorialy vigilant they are required to be with respect to reporting crimes to the FBI database. Contrary to popular opinion, the FBI does not fish for your violations with a net. They are only going to document what is reported to them, and if your state does not report a certain class of misdemeanors, than you will not be affected.
Best of luck to you. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| marsavalanche wrote: |
| And public urination? ... I'm GLAD anyone with a criminal history isn't allowed here. |
To be fair... public urination is not against the law in Korea....and it is commonplace.
There are a whole host of things that will get you a criminal record in the west but are quite normal in Korea. |
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