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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Kaypea wrote: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Offer to write it for them and they'll likely be all ears. |
Actually, considering how lazy my boss is, this might work. |
This is standard practice. Even if the person I'm asking writes in perfect English, I'm always asked to write my own reference letter. It really isn't presumptuous to approach somebody with a reference letter written for yourself, by yourself, with the "writer's" name and info already on there, and just ask them, sweetly, to sign it. |
Again, the OP was talking about a letter of release not a reference letter. |
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Illysook
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| In the context of helping the FT, even those who communicate very well in English will appreciate doing less work and it's not because they are lazy. Usually, they have a full load of teaching responsibilities and dealing with you is something piled on top of all that. Help out when you can. |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Why simple! It is not in their best interest and even many times completely against their interests to give one.
A letter of release can be seen as a sort of betrayal. Many schools will not make leaving them easy. Consider it like a divorce. If you are leaving before contract is ending and on bad terms you will get nothing. Even if you are leaving and fulfilling all job requirements too odds are still low. Even if they are the one that fired you or do not like you some schools will still think why are you not renewing or staying with us. I know it sound crazy.
The previous comments above about being lazy is true too. Many times some people will not make the effort to do something that does nothing for them. The easier your make it for them the more likely you will get what you want. |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| You need to give them a reason to give you a release letter. They are used to telling you what to do without rhyme or reason, if you just ask for it without reason then they will be stunned. They don't work for you, you work/ed for them. So, a reason is your way out. Give them a suitable reason. Getting off their back and not hassling them anymore is a good one. |
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Allthechildrenareinsane
Joined: 23 Jun 2011
Location: Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| koreatimes wrote: |
| You need to give them a reason to give you a release letter. They are used to telling you what to do without rhyme or reason, if you just ask for it without reason then they will be stunned. They don't work for you, you work/ed for them. So, a reason is your way out. Give them a suitable reason. Getting off their back and not hassling them anymore is a good one. |
After a nice talk, it turns out my boss was hemming and hawing about the letter of release b/c he was a little miffed that I was not renewing (we had been on good terms up until this). After reassuring him that my leaving had *cough* nothing whatever to do w/ him, he agreed to sign one for me.
So as it turns out, he was just afraid I didn't like him anymore.  |
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