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CarolinaTHeels
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
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 Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:30 am Post subject: NET pay for working 9 hours? |
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| How much should a NET expect to be payed for working long hours such as 9-10 hours? |
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Xylox
Joined: 09 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Average noob contract is 2.1 mil or so for 30 hours a week. 10 hours a day is like 50 hours, so 20 hours overtime, at a standard rate of 1800-2000won per hour so like an extra $400 per week? Which comes out to something your hogwon/boss would never ever pay,
2.1 + 1.6 = 3.7 mil/month. |
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CarolinaTHeels
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:33 am Post subject: |
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They started out with 2.1 then I swiftly said I wasnt interested. Then the recruiter said they would 2.2 then I told her I would prefer just working standard night shift. I talked to another teach and she said some things I liked, soo I sent the recruiter another email saying I would accept the job if the school would pay 2.3
Ill find out tonight what the school says....
I think they only count teaching hours as working hours. Thats stupid. I consider any time im required to be at work teaching/prepping working hours. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| CarolinaTHeels wrote: |
They started out with 2.1 then I swiftly said I wasnt interested. Then the recruiter said they would 2.2 then I told her I would prefer just working standard night shift. I talked to another teach and she said some things I liked, soo I sent the recruiter another email saying I would accept the job if the school would pay 2.3
Ill find out tonight what the school says....
I think they only count teaching hours as working hours. Thats stupid. I consider any time im required to be at work teaching/prepping working hours. |
You will be a salaried employee not an hourly employee.
You are getting paid for a month of work that includes 120 hours of class time plus whatever admin tasks you agree to in the contract and as many office hours as it takes you to do the non-teaching work AND your day may be spread over 6-12 hours (depending on the type of hagwan you work for).
Make sure you get the number of classes (not class hours) in the contract or you may end up working a lot more than you planned.
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| CarolinaTHeels wrote: |
| I think they only count teaching hours as working hours. Thats stupid. I consider any time im required to be at work teaching/prepping working hours. |
This is true of the majority of hagwon jobs. Even with an afternoon job you're most likely going to be expected to show up an hour early. |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| CarolinaTHeels wrote: |
I think they only count teaching hours as working hours. Thats stupid. I consider any time im required to be at work teaching/prepping working hours. |
Preparation, planning, checking of homework, and all of the other various and sundry things necessarily done in order to teach a class well are usually considered to be part of the job of being a teacher -- even at places that clearly do not care about hiring good teachers. |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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This question comes up quite often. Take the contract you have been given and READ IT. Most of everything you need to know will be in it.
Yet be aware of certain thing -
Prep time will not be included into overtime pay. You get there at 1:00 start teaching at 2:00 your hours will start at 2:00.
Expect to be nickle and dimed. You teach from 3:00 to 3:50 and next class starts at 4:00. How many hours is that. None it is 50 minutes. Expect total hours to be strictly just class time. A school can get a few extra classes out of you a month doing this.
Schools will not track your time for you. If by keeping their mouth shut they can save a couple hundred thousand won they will. Track your own hours. |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Track your own hours. |
To add to this, I use their schedule. Schools usually give out a copy of the schedule they want. From there, you can mark days when things are cancelled or if it is your fault when you don't come in. I prefer to work down instead of up, trying to justify every class I teach. If you are paid a monthly salary, then it's easier to look at deductions.
When you are asked about overtime and your schedule has changed, then you need to confirm with them that these are indeed overtime hours. What they like to do is have 1 teacher teach "overtime" hours when another teacher isn't working. Then, the following week, they will have the first teacher not work as much. Come pay day, they note this and say they don't owe overtime. It's a way for them to get around fixed schedules.
You'll have to judge yourself if you are being taken advantage of by looking at the total amount off compared to the workload. Right now, these summer camps are really terrible, but they only last a couple weeks a month. I can't wait till the regular school year starts up again. |
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