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julian_w
Joined: 08 Sep 2003
Location: Somewhere beyond Middle Peak Hotel, north of Middle Earth, and well away from the Middle of the Road
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 Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:47 am Post subject: A bit of support? - Phone, message, parcel, or prison visit! |
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So it seems that US citizen and PFC Andre Michael Fisher currently resides within the walls of Seoul 'Prison' (Guchi Seo) in Poil Dong, Euiwang, in southern Gyeonggi Do.
Details remain frustratingly obscure and sketchy, and time is of the essence as his appeal date was set just the other day, for August the 9th. He has already been incarcerated since the first couple of months of the year. He has continued to profess his innocence throughout this time, and his friends, with him on the night of his 'arrest', remain devoted to supporting him, as does his stressed and doting family.
I am not asking you to solve the case, though i share any interest in seeing how it unfolds. I am asking you whether you can help firstly in supporting the person and spirit of Andre Michael Fisher, and his family, by bringing attention to your interest in knowing how the case unfolds. You can do these things easily, by contacting Andre by visiting him in Seoul Prison, and by contacting the family and friends via their facebook group here:
http://www.facebook.com/?sk=inbox&action=read&tid=w9G3cBBAJ3QtRzNDQYBY0Q#!/groups/fishercominghome?id=220924227944105¬if_t=group_activity
and, by contacting your local US or Korean consulate or embassy and asking them to simply to convey your expression of interest in the case, and particularly in the evidence. |
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julian_w
Joined: 08 Sep 2003
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DaHu
Joined: 09 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| The only thing about prison I know is that everyone says they're innocent. |
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julian_w
Joined: 08 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| DaHu wrote: |
| The only thing about prison I know is that everyone says they're innocent. |
Yeah, okay. Thanks for that, DaHu. |
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julian_w
Joined: 08 Sep 2003
Location: Somewhere beyond Middle Peak Hotel, north of Middle Earth, and well away from the Middle of the Road
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: A bit of support? - Phone, message, parcel, or prison vi |
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| julian_w wrote: |
So it seems that US citizen and PFC Andre Michael Fisher currently resides within the walls of Seoul 'Prison' (Guchi Seo) in Poil Dong, Euiwang, in southern Gyeonggi Do.
Details remain frustratingly obscure and sketchy, and time is of the essence as his appeal date was set just the other day, for August the 9th. He has already been incarcerated since the first couple of months of the year. He has continued to profess his innocence throughout this time, and his friends, with him on the night of his 'arrest', remain devoted to supporting him, as does his stressed and doting family.
I am not asking you to solve the case, though i share any interest in seeing how it unfolds. I am asking you whether you can help firstly in supporting the person and spirit of Andre Michael Fisher, and his family, by bringing attention to your interest in knowing how the case unfolds. You can do these things easily, by contacting Andre by visiting him in Seoul Prison, and by contacting the family and friends via their facebook group here:
http://www.facebook.com/?sk=inbox&action=read&tid=w9G3cBBAJ3QtRzNDQYBY0Q#!/groups/fishercominghome?id=220924227944105¬if_t=group_activity
and, by contacting your local US or Korean consulate or embassy and asking them to simply to convey your expression of interest in the case, and particularly in the evidence. |
Out of curiosity, what is your connection to the case? You seem to be hitting this issue pretty hard.
The local news article that you linked is pure speculation, and I highly doubt that the US army would allow him to sit in prison if something serious that isnt getting into the US papers didnt happen. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Do you think a Korean citizen would get two years in prison for stealing $88? I've read cases where rapists get no prison time at all here. Same with child molesters. And if they did it was under two years in prison. Do you think Andre Fisher got a longer sentence because he was American/a foreigner/black? I do. I also think he might be innocent.
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Pfc. Andre Fisher, 22, of Hazle Township, was outside a night club in Seoul with three friends in late December or January, talking on a cell phone, when three or four males approached a nearby taxi cab, one of those men reached inside the cab and then walked away, said Fisher�s father, Robert.
�The driver started yelling, �Robbery!� The South Korean police came and the driver pointed out Andre as the person who robbed him. The police beat him and threw him to the ground,� Robert Fisher said.
The police searched Andre, found $14 in his pocket and gave it to the cab driver, his father said.
Despite the lack of physical evidence and a grainy surveillance video from inside the taxi that showed a tall, slender, hooded male reaching inside the cab when Andre is tall but well-built, a South Korean judge found Andre guilty of the crime and sentenced him to two years in prison.
Andre�s mom, Sandra Fisher, said her son refused to plead guilty, against his South Korean lawyer�s advice.
�He was under the impression nothing was going to happen to him because he didn�t do anything wrong,� Sandra Fisher said.
She noted that Andre was not permitted to call witnesses in his own defense at the trial, which appears to be a violation of the Status of Force Agreement between the United States and South Korea, which is formally called the Republic of Korea. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds like the guys needs a better lawyer. |
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julian_w
Joined: 08 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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@ SeoulNate: Thanks for your question.
I'm interested in this case for a collection of reasons, foremost amongst which are that the whole business seems quite curious, and, due to foreknowledge of the fallibility of the Korean 'justice' system ( - in much the same way as the New Zealand legal system is also fallible - ) particularly including a large set of local examples from recent history in Korea, and another set involving taxi drivers in particular.
There's a bit of discussion about it in the other recent thread, but generally, I'm about as lost in the lack of facts and details available as you or anyone else here, but, social justice issues interest me, and so I'm wondering if this is one such case, or not.
So to answer your question: My connection to the case is due to pure interest, both in the outcome of the story, and in the individual. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
Do you think a Korean citizen would get two years in prison for stealing $88? I've read cases where rapists get no prison time at all here. Same with child molesters. And if they did it was under two years in prison. Do you think Andre Fisher got a longer sentence because he was American/a foreigner/black? I do. I also think he might be innocent.
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Absolutely a Korean would get 2 years for ROBBERY. He didn't steal the money, he ROBBED the guy. Robbery involves the use of force. Not only that, but according to the US Army report on the website posted in the other thread, he ALSO was convicted of destruction of public property.
I agree with SeoulNate (no relation). I don't see the US Army letting one of their people sit in jail falsely. They spent time and money training this guy, and now they are losing that investment. I am confident that they did what they could to help this guy out.
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