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What type of curriculum does YBM/ECC generally use?

 
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iain77



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:35 am    Post subject: What type of curriculum does YBM/ECC generally use? Reply with quote

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tomato



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was at a YBM school 3 years ago.

The preschool class used a series which was based on Sesame Street.

I never could understand why, but in elementary school, different classes used different textbook series.
Some classes used Let's Go, which is a fairly good series.
Some classes used American English Today, which, for some reason, was published by the same publisher and was very similar to Let's Go. I understand that this series is no longer being published.

Some elementary classes used Parade. I never saw any way possible to teach out of that series. I secretly made a cross-index between Parade and the other two series. Whenever I had to teach out of Parade, I ran copies of the pages which covered the same material in the other two series.

Some of the middle school and adult classes used Side by Side. This is a cartoon-illustrated series containing drills.

My classes lasted for 55 minutes. For the first half of the class, I followed the textbook. For the second half, I used songs, games, and picture books of my own choice.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomato wrote:
I was at a YBM school 3 years ago.

The preschool class used a series which was based on Sesame Street.

I never could understand why, but in elementary school, different classes used different textbook series.
Some classes used Let's Go, which is a fairly good series.
Some classes used American English Today, which, for some reason, was published by the same publisher and was very similar to Let's Go. I understand that this series is no longer being published.

Some elementary classes used Parade. I never saw any way possible to teach out of that series. I secretly made a cross-index between Parade and the other two series. Whenever I had to teach out of Parade, I ran copies of the pages which covered the same material in the other two series.

Some of the middle school and adult classes used Side by Side. This is a cartoon-illustrated series containing drills.

My classes lasted for 55 minutes. For the first half of the class, I followed the textbook. For the second half, I used songs, games, and picture books of my own choice.


I doubt then you were at an ECC if what you say is true.

I've worked at two different ECCs...total time 3yrs and they were both the same.

Parade/Discovery/Explorer/Peek-A-Boo and a couple other books are standard. Classes are 40mins.

They never used Let's Go, as those books compete with Discovery/Explorer which are homegrown books.

My wife also worked at an ECC for 2yrs...she used the exact same books I had used.

They have a set curiculam...don't worry.
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PEIGUY



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Omokgyo

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:
tomato wrote:
I was at a YBM school 3 years ago.

The preschool class used a series which was based on Sesame Street.

I never could understand why, but in elementary school, different classes used different textbook series.
Some classes used Let's Go, which is a fairly good series.
Some classes used American English Today, which, for some reason, was published by the same publisher and was very similar to Let's Go. I understand that this series is no longer being published.

Some elementary classes used Parade. I never saw any way possible to teach out of that series. I secretly made a cross-index between Parade and the other two series. Whenever I had to teach out of Parade, I ran copies of the pages which covered the same material in the other two series.

Some of the middle school and adult classes used Side by Side. This is a cartoon-illustrated series containing drills.

My classes lasted for 55 minutes. For the first half of the class, I followed the textbook. For the second half, I used songs, games, and picture books of my own choice.


I doubt then you were at an ECC if what you say is true.

I've worked at two different ECCs...total time 3yrs and they were both the same.

Parade/Discovery/Explorer/Peek-A-Boo and a couple other books are standard. Classes are 40mins.

They never used Let's Go, as those books compete with Discovery/Explorer which are homegrown books.

My wife also worked at an ECC for 2yrs...she used the exact same books I had used.

They have a set curiculam...don't worry.


So, Mr. Pink ECC is a good school to go with? from what i have gathered is basically its a good place to start for a newbie? i know the pay isn't the greatest but i'd rather have that as a trade off for a good experience (not the franchises as some are hit/miss i understand). I dont' like using recruiters and ECC was recommended to me through a mutual acquaitance who has friends working at the school now and he himself spent a year working there.
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Mr. Pink



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The head office schools are good in a lot of ways:

You always get materials, good housing and paid on time.

Bad in these ways:

Supervisors/Managers can change as they move around the corp. world of YBM. Some are great, some SUCK. I used to HATE my last supervisor. THe manager was cool though.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, Mr. Pink!

No, I was at an E2 school, which was also under YBM (�û� �����).
The school was in Kimcheon.
But when I was job-hunting, I visited an ECC school in Taegu, and it seemed to have many of the same materials.

I wondered why �û� ����� had two chains with two names.
I haven't seen any new E2 schools going up since I've been here.
They probably decided to phase it out.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomato wrote:
Hello, Mr. Pink!

No, I was at an E2 school, which was also under YBM (�û� �����).
The school was in Kimcheon.
But when I was job-hunting, I visited an ECC school in Taegu, and it seemed to have many of the same materials.

I wondered why �û� ����� had two chains with two names.
I haven't seen any new E2 schools going up since I've been here.
They probably decided to phase it out.


Actually ECC is now under YBM Education.

Which a few of their other chains retain the sisa young o sa name.

The ECC franchise uses all the same books, as Sisa Young O Sa's media arm: Young and Son Media (i believe is the name) produced a set of crap books that they push on the students. IMO it's better than nothing, but still they could be improved.
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PEIGUY



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:
The head office schools are good in a lot of ways:

You always get materials, good housing and paid on time.

Bad in these ways:

Supervisors/Managers can change as they move around the corp. world of YBM. Some are great, some SUCK. I used to HATE my last supervisor. THe manager was cool though.


thanks, i don't think any job can be totally perfect, even in the real world people hate there supervisors or managers, its a way of life. Thanks for the info.
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