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Korean Children and Boundary Issues..
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know bro. I've did some volunteer work with kids in the US and these were some kids who would jump on my back and one little boy that would sit on my lap. I don't mind the kids themselves, but I was worried what the other adults might think. Then again, this was in a lesser developed area of the US with not the most educated people.
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DBXD wrote:
northway wrote:
This thread is a bit over the top. Out of the 200 kids at my school, we've got maybe two or three bad apples. Discipline is almost never an issue. Point being, if you have a proper disciplinary system in place at your school, you probably won't have any problems.


As a previous poster pointed out, the waiting in line and yelling at the teacher while she's talking on the phone: "teacher," TEACHER," TEEAAACCCHEEERRRRR!!!!!!" That drives me up a wall. I just yell "바빠" (busy) at them. If no one else will teach them manners, I guess it's up to me.

And northway I have to disagree with you. I work at two different schools throughout the week. One school is in a poorer side of town and the kids there are too much too handle at times, and I definitely have 1 or 2 bad apples in EVERY CLASS that makes my life hell and leads me to drink pretty heavily on Friday nights. It's the overall makeup of the school.
But the other school I go to, in a nicer area, all of my classes are ok. Yeah, there is 1 bad apple in each class, but I can control them and they aren't that bad anyway in comparison to my other school.

I think some teachers on Dave's haven't experienced a really bad school yet so their interpretations are slightly different than those who have faced off against the rotten ones. I've seen them all, and no matter how much authority you try to apply to bad children, it won't change them, some kids just don't want to learn English and they view your class as play time.


My first Korean teaching gig was working for Mokdong Wonderland. After the first two weeks, I had no problems with the kids. I used to teach alternative and gang kids in the US. After the first two weeks, I had no problems with the kids.

I'd use sarcasm here, but I think it might be interpretted as actual support.

You can fix the problems you are experiencing -- it isn't quick, it isn't easy, but it can be done, regardless of whether or not someone else is backing your play (of course, it IS much easier with backup, but it can be done without it).

You have to explain the undesirable behavior, in simple language. You then have to explain the desired behavior, in simple language. You should model the desired behavior in every instance where the undesirable behavior occurs. If anyone follows the desirable behavior, that or those students should be praised, and the desirable behavior should be described and modelled again.

In general, students do not actually "know what they did wrong." Until they hit around 4th grade or so, complex cause-and-effect relationships do not make much sense to them. In general, young students want to please the teacher -- heck, even most older students want to. If they have no clue how to do so, however, they will shut off or act out...and they certainly won't ASK if they can not figure out what you want...so you have to do the simple, repetetive, literal explanation and modelling of the desired behavior, without losing your temper at the undesirable behavior....
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