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[madoka]

Damn, I'd hate to be a public school teacher in a bad neighborhood. I talked to one who worked in South Central Los Angeles under Teach for America. She told me how students would not be disciplined for things like throwing desks and chairs at her, yelling profanities or threats at her, or turning in writing assignments that consisted of detailed anal rape fantasies about her. She told me that she cried every day on the way to work and again on her way home.

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A new study by the by the Council of State Governments finds that 60 percent of Texan students were suspended, expelled or faced in-school suspensions by the time they graduated high school.

The researchers followed every Texas seventh grader into high school, the New York Times reports, studying almost 1 million students.

Fifteen percent of the students were disciplined 11 times or more over the six years. And the more frequently a student faced suspension or expulsion, the greater the chances would be that the disciplined student would eventually drop out, according to the Council of State Governments analysis.

"African-American students and those with particular educational disabilities experience a disproportionately high rate of removal from the classroom for disciplinary reasons," study author Mike Thompson told NPR. Seventy percent of black female students were expelled or suspended, compared to 37 percent of white girls, he said.

[swinewho]

[Louis VI]

They'd throw them in jail if they could. Hell, they're Texans! They are deserving of being shot if they do something real bad, like trespass on someone's lawn.

[Gorf]

Let the south secede again and make sure they take Texas and Florida

[Fox]

The fact that so many students need to be suspended or expelled demonstrates that schools need more real disciplinary tools available to them. Suspension and expulsion essentially punt disciplinary responsibility to the parents, but if the parents in question were seriously up to the task, things would rarely escallate to a level where suspension or expulsion was required.

[Louis VI]

[MoneyMike]

Louis, out of curiosity, what do you think should be changed about Texan schools? I mean seriously, they need some form of discipline, no?

Definitely agree with Fox that schools need more options for discipline. It's pretty clear that in the last 60 or 70 years disciplinary options in schools have shrunk enormously, and I don't think it's any coincidence that behavior problems like this are becoming so common.

[tatertot]

It all comes back to the parents. It is the responsibility of the parents to instill values and enforce discipline. Unfortunately, parents are getting lazier and now expect the schools to not only educate their children, but to raise them as well! Then, when schools discipline the children, many parents refuse to believe that their "little angel" could possibly be the cause of the problem. When did parents become so worthless?

[young_clinton]

It's the overwhelming heat in Texas.

[swinewho]

[chrisinkorea2011]

you can claim right wing this or that or whatever you want to say, but i believe in eye for an eye and discipline of students for the wrongs they commit. If you look at the school systems years ago, things were no where near as bad as it is today. Now if you discipline a student a parent who isnt too keen on keeping up with their studies or even being involved in their learning SUDDENLY wants to sue or bring about some kind of racism brought because of their student. forget that S**T!
the justice system now is F'ed up as well, insanity for this and that? man kill them for what they did! you are tried by a jury of your peers. if you raped/killed someone you DONT deserve life, or a chance to sit in a prison awaiting your execution TWENTY years later. tax payers feed the bunches of criminals who sit and live a carefree life in jail. start making examples of the prisoners and executing criminals for their crimes and i GUARANTEE things eventually will become safer because of fear of punishment, instead of just going to jail and sitting there.

[Fox]

[No_hite_pls]

[highstreet]

Is being suspended a big deal in high school? I was suspended once for driving to McDonalds and coming back

[Captain Corea]

That's what I'm curious about - what are grounds for suspension, and how much have they changed over the years?