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Rhoddri



Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:12 am    Post subject: KIN �� Reply with quote

How offensive is this word? I know it's a "�ż���" (new generation-internet chatting/gaming generation) word. I've asked a few older Koreans and they didn't know. Does anybody else hear their students use it class? How do you react to it? Like it's foul language or just ignore it? What would you do if you were in a situation like this..i.e.

Teacher:"NOw get your books out please"

Fat specky kid: "��!" (Juel)

Also sometimes students say things with �� in the phrase like ��̴� or juel gop gae, but they really emphasise the 'juel' in the phrase. All the kids usually laugh then when you tell them not to say it, they just reply "ohh teacher I said 'good time' in korean! not bad word!". Another trick is writing KIN on their books or desks etc. if you turn KIN 90 degrees it looks like ��.

Some people claim it's a mild word like "no"/"I don't like" some claim it's as severe as "f*ck you". Anybody else have input or is it another case of me having far too much spare time by giving this any real thought?
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that guy



Joined: 29 Feb 2004
Location: long gone

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just asked my girlfriend and she said it means something like bull sh**. She's not too sure though as it's rather new and she's a little out of touch with the youth of today.

Generally I ignore it when I hear it. If students say kin a lot, I tell them that kin means family and they generally stop the giggling.
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JackSarang



Joined: 28 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year when I asked my girlfriend about it, she had no idea what it meant and she's only 22.

Based on context I'd place it between "screw you" and "whatever".

You say, "Take out your books"

Boy says, "Yeah, whatever."


Either way its disrepectful, and they kids obviously use it that way... but it doesn't rank up there with being told to *beep* yourself.
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little mixed girl



Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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anae



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: cowtown

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the only explanation I have come across:

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KIN" is not English. When turned 90 degrees to the right, it reads like the Korean syllable jeul, which in turn is short for jeulgeopda, which can mean "to enjoy" or "to be pleasant."

Any conversation, especially an online chat, might end with "Have a nice day!" or "Have a good one," and when abbreviated in Korean, just "jeul," short for "Have a jeulgeoun day/life/night," for example. Jeul can then be written as "KIN," which in turn has sometimes come to be used as a way to "diss" someone online, a sarcastic goodbye informing the other person that you're leaving the conversation, or to mean off with you!.

"KIN to the GNP/MDP Adulterous Union," therefore, might be interpreted as "Off with the adulterous union of the Grand National Party (GNP) and the Millennium Democratic Party (MDP)."


http://www.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?no=153069&rel_no=19&menu=c10400
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Rhoddri



Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting article, cheers! The generation gap is amasing here. I really have to disagree with alot of the "political" opinions that my younger generation students have. It will be facinating to see what political situation S.Korea is in in 20 years time.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they still use 'ZZang!' (jjang) all the time or was that a fad whose time has passed?
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IconsFanatic



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
Do they still use 'ZZang!' (jjang) all the time or was that a fad whose time has passed?


You get that a little bit, but its time has mostly passed, yes.
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peemil



Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Location: Koowoompa

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate that word. That's not allowed in my classroom. It's true. It's like a diss. It sounds offensive and really annoys me. I just chuck them out by the ear.

It's like if you were in school and the teacher asked you to do something, and you said, "Bollocks to you Miss." Nope, not on.
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Holyjoe



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: Away for a cuppa

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
Do they still use 'ZZang!' (jjang) all the time or was that a fad whose time has passed?


I think it's been replaced with 'Da-bong!' in youthful parlance - a borrowed word from Chinese or Japanese (can't remember which).
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mishlert



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Taegu I was teaching elementary school kids and the class was ending.
All of the sudden one of the kids said, "Teacher, she follow me." Well, everybody laughed, and being the teacher I corrected him and said it should be ' she follows me.' Again, laughter erupted in the classroom.
Well, I went to the teachers room and asked about the phrase/ word.
One of the Korean teachers was shocked and asked where I heard it, so I told her. She shook her head and said it's a slang for making love; akin to saying, "I f***ed her good."
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: KIN �� Reply with quote

Rhoddri wrote:
Teacher:"NOw get your books out please"

Fat specky kid: "��!" (Juel)




I got the teacher at my school to ask her middle school aged daughter about the word. She said that it means "to ignore or refuse in a bad way"

My translation: P!ss off, I don't feel like it.
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Sucker



Joined: 11 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to get that when I worked in a Hogwan 2 years back.

Someone told me that it means "chill out" / "take it easy" / "calm down".
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Juggertha



Joined: 27 May 2003
Location: Anyang, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah all my kids knew it when i mentioned it to them. I have one class that is very cool with slang and open about it. i'm always impressed that they don't let it degrade into a slag fest but are usually more interested in where and why.
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