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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:08 pm Post subject: English names to avoid giving students |
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Harry: �ظ� is a girl's name in Korean.
Eugene: ���� is a girl's name in Korean.
Harriet: Yesterday, a Korean teacher at the school corrected me for naming a student Harriet. The student's classmates are teasing her because the name ends with ��. The Korean teacher won't tell me what that means, so it must really be bad. |
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Horangi Munshin

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: Busan
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Ummm, I think I understand the objection to ��. Telling someone to eat �� is the equivalent of F you.
Daisy too close to dwaeji. I can't think of anymore. |
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Crois

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: You could be next so watch out.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Alexis - they just call the girl Alex.
Phoebie - they call the girl peebe. |
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wylde

Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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george or georgie
sounds like d!ck when spoken in korean |
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Crois

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: You could be next so watch out.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Avoid the name Wylde. Just the reputation that comes with it.  |
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Saxiif

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: Seongnam
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Mary or Christina are generally a mistake due to the "Merry Christmas" choruses that generally result. Ralph is also hell for them to pronounce.
My kids always giggle about Laila, but I'm not sure why. |
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bellum99

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: don't need to know
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:01 pm Post subject: name them Venus |
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Give the name Venus and watch them try to say it properly.
I laughed my butt off the first time.
They say it with a P not a V |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Location: japan is better than korea.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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here are some others
"adolf"
"osama"
"gene simmons"
"hercules" |
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Simon
Michael
Kevin  |
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osangrl
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Location: osan
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Jill
DO NOT NAME A GIRL Jill......i think it mean vagina or something. |
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Saxiif

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: Seongnam
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Oh and my boss has forbidden me to name anyone George since that's Bush's name. |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: The Y.C.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Never name two students in your class:
Neil and Bob |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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My experience is strongly opposite of some advice given.
"Harry" may sound similary to a girl's name in Korean but two of my students (in different classes) chose that name.
Here's my system:
When there's a new student:
(1) Ask students to volunteer a letter from the alphabet and write a name beginning with that letter. Someone says "F" and write "Frank"; someone else says "O" and write "Oscar", and so on, until a dozen names are on the board.
(2) Everybody repeats in a chorus as the teacher pronounces the names.
(3) Ask the student what name is a bad name, and proceed to remove names one at a time (repeat all the names to remind them of the sounds; have each student veto one option - not a general shouting match).
(4) The new student then pronounces the remaining 6 names and the teacher removes a couple (because they can't pronounce it or whatever).
(5) The new student then chooses a name from the remaining 4 choices.
This method has served me very well for over a year. I recommend it.
The children find the process fun and yet take it seriously, especially when it's their turn to veto an option, even lobbying others. I observe their interactions and gain info as to which ones I should veto when it's my turn to cut a few options.
Using the method, two boys chose "Harry", so Tomato, it can't be so bad. (But that was BEFORE the Harry Potter craze last year; now they're teased about it sometimes.)
Also chosen were "Simon","Michael", "Kevin". (Sorry Corporal, but if you practice b/v enough, they'll proudly be able to pronounce "Kevin" without a 'b'.)
The method has also resulted in girls chosing "Mary" and "Christina", without any comments, even in December (with my students anyways - I don't think they've made the connection, even the middle school students).
One of my middle school students has the name "Jill". She got it years ago so I don't know what she has gone through, but she's pretty comfortable with it now (an assertive student).
The method I use avoids many problems. If the name is too much like a Korean word, the students nix it or giggle (then I nix it). If the student cannot pronounce it, it's nixed ("Zac" gets eliminated often). And the student feels s/he has chosen the name chosen from the final list.
But no method is flawless.
One name slipped through with a younger class of mine on a day I must have been sleep walking. Somebody said "O" and I wrote down a particular name beginning with that letter. Nobody made anything of it, not even a cracked smile among the 9 year olds. (That's because they're too young to have learned of it's resemblance yet.)
Well, in the end the girl chose the "O" name and all was great. Until I went into the office and introduced the name to my Korean co-workers. They had a howl. They said the student cannot possibly have that name because in a couple of years, in middle school, they'll be made fun of - it just won't do.
Her name was "Orilla"
As in gorilla.
Now she's "Ori" as in (Or-ee). It's my one disaster and a sign I must be on my toes when it's my turn to remove options from the whiteboard.
Orilla. Geeesh. |
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mourningclam
Joined: 27 Jan 2004
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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I named a kid "Cleatis". He doesnt seem to have a problem with it. |
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Zed

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Shakedown Street
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Once, a mother made me change her daughter's name from the one I had given her. I named her Vivien which the mother objected to since there is a lingeree store with that name. |
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