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Michael_75
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| PS I also enjoy the slighty confused-looking 'arithmetic face', when cheap lad is figuring out the exact breakdown of the bill in his head. It normally means they end up 20 paces behind the rest of the group, oblivious to any conversation. |
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furtakk
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| flakfizer wrote: |
Typically that type of thing goes around. Typically you pay slightly more one time and slightly less the other time. This is for groups who eat together fairly regularly.
The other way to roll is to do it Korean style and have one person pick up the entire tab on a rotation basis. We did that at a few of my former work places and it worked well enough. |
Precisely. Cheapo guy isn't rushing to make sure everybody has their exact change when he is paying less.
I can not stand that type of person. If you're worried about the loss of 1k, you must be an extremely sad individual. Plus, people talk about you on internet forums. Never a good sign. |
Yes yes yes yes yes.
This behavior is the most annoying because it directly affects me. Sneaking in beers to a bar? Whatever, you look like a hobo. I don't really care. Drinking soju in front of 711? Cool, don't think I'll join you though.
Making everyone stand like a retard in front of the cashier for 10 minutes because you're too goddamn cheap to pay an extra 1,000? F*** you. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Well furtak now you are talking about thinking of the group ahead of yourself. That can be tough for some of the misers out there! 
"Hey guys, my bill was 1200 won cheaper than Jim's. I ate fewer sidedishes and ate a cheaper dish so that should also lower my share of the bill" (re-creation of something that actually happened to us in Korea a few years ago )
This dude did not have a problem sharing the makali and dong dong ju that was served in a bowl for all to share however... |
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Bruce W Sims
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Illinois; USA
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:52 am Post subject: |
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I have not seen a differential dx for "Miser" but there is increasing research into the nature of "Hoarding" which I might guess "miserly behavior" could be related.
Hoarding seems to relate to undergoing personality development while experience deprivation or on-going exposure to sudden losses including loss of property and family members.
The miserly people I have run into are not usually aware they are doing it, or have a comfortable set of rationalizations to defend their behavior.
And then....there's just the folks who are tight with a buck, right? 
Best Wishes,
Bruce |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Why can't you just get a purifier yourself and make your water at home?
It's kinda like taking office supplies home...
There's a difference between saving money and passing costs onto someone else. |
Except it's not like that, because you're not costing anyone money. Like I said, there's a difference between taking purchased bottled water home and taking water from a filter. If you don't need to get a purifier at home, why bother? In my view, it's wasteful to make an unnecessary purchase, even if that purchase costs next to nothing. |
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2i2dk1ny2i3
Joined: 26 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
In my view, it's wasteful to make an unnecessary purchase, even if that purchase costs next to nothing. |
i agree about taking water from work...that should be ok but not like bringing another 2 liter to fill up
what type of Filters are we talking about because stateside, Brita & PUR are fairly expensive but well worth it |
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Feloria
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I really don't see why it's so terrible to just pay for yourself-
I'm not taking anyone else's money, and I tend to eat less than most of my co-horts do.
The group at my last workplace likes to eat A LOT and drink A LOT.
I might just have 1 or 2 drinks compared to their 5 or 6.
If I do have a night of "overindulgence", I would NEVER expect anyone else to pick up my tab.
Of course there are special ocassions; I've treated people many times--I'm just talking about the average dinner/pub type deal.
As I said earlier-- when it comes to splitting the bill evenly, a few bucks over what I actually owe is no big deal; but if it's like 10+, forget it!
Who's the bigger cheapass-the one who wants to pay what they OWE, or the ones who expect others to pay the extra for them??  |
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Feloria
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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I really don't see why it's so terrible to just pay for yourself-
I'm not taking anyone else's money, and I tend to eat less than most of my co-horts do.
The group at my last workplace likes to eat A LOT and drink A LOT.
I might just have 1 or 2 drinks compared to their 5 or 6.
If I do have a night of "overindulgence", I would NEVER expect anyone else to pick up my tab.
Of course there are special ocassions; I've treated people many times--I'm just talking about the average dinner/pub type deal.
As I said earlier-- when it comes to splitting the bill evenly, a few bucks over what I actually owe is no big deal; but if it's like 10+, forget it!
Who's the bigger cheapass-the one who wants to pay what they OWE, or the ones who expect others to pay the extra for them?? |
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Bruce W Sims
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Illinois; USA
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Quick question F.....
when you go out to eat do you just take the check total and divide by the number of people present, or do you itemize to see who ate/drank what? Thoughts?
BTW: Little known fact:
While making it through school I spent a LOT of time working in restaurants.
Female Business people were far and away the cheapest of the cheap when it came to checks and tipping. Many more women try to walk out of a restaurant without paying than anyone else I knew. FWIW.
Best Wishes,
Bruce |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
Why can't you just get a purifier yourself and make your water at home?
It's kinda like taking office supplies home...
There's a difference between saving money and passing costs onto someone else. |
Except it's not like that, because you're not costing anyone money. Like I said, there's a difference between taking purchased bottled water home and taking water from a filter. If you don't need to get a purifier at home, why bother? In my view, it's wasteful to make an unnecessary purchase, even if that purchase costs next to nothing. |
Costs the school money.
It's basically like spending as much time as possible at your school in order to soak up free electricity and A/C.
That's stingy and its passing what should be your expenses onto someone else.
Filling up a small bottle so you have something to drink at work is fine. Filling up multiple two liters to take home is violating the spirit of things.
Especially considering that the next person who goes to the water cooler can't get anything because all the water has gone into your 2 liter. |
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Silly-leaf
Joined: 09 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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I don't mind splitting the tab most of the time but there are cases where I've put my foot down so to say...
In University my two roommates dragged me out to eat at some fancy local restaurant with their boyfriends (for some 'bonding' time apparently...though in actuality I ended up babysitting their piss drunk behinds). I told them I had already eaten my dinner at home and wasn't overly hungry. They also know I don't drink so I had a soda with free refills. I ordered a nice $6 appetizer and they all ordered $20+ dollar meals and decided to pre-drink at the restaurant (fancy Canadian restaurant = not cheap drinks).
I most definitely was not going to pay for their meals and booze and 'politely' told them so.
there's splitting the bill when everyone orders a more or less equally priced meal but then there's those truly unfair splits. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Feloria wrote: |
I really don't see why it's so terrible to just pay for yourself-
I'm not taking anyone else's money, and I tend to eat less than most of my co-horts do.
The group at my last workplace likes to eat A LOT and drink A LOT.
I might just have 1 or 2 drinks compared to their 5 or 6.
If I do have a night of "overindulgence", I would NEVER expect anyone else to pick up my tab.
Of course there are special ocassions; I've treated people many times--I'm just talking about the average dinner/pub type deal.
As I said earlier-- when it comes to splitting the bill evenly, a few bucks over what I actually owe is no big deal; but if it's like 10+, forget it!
Who's the bigger cheapass-the one who wants to pay what they OWE, or the ones who expect others to pay the extra for them?? |
Exactly my point. A person who only wants to pay for what they ordered and consumed may be "cheap" but a person who knowingly pays for less than their share is worse. |
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Feloria
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce-
Good Question.
When I go out on an AVERAGE night with say, 5 others--I keep track of how much I owe, rounded up.
If we have 1 check I expect that I might pay a few dollars more splitting the bill; no biggie.
But if by splitting it, my total is $10 or something more than I owe--that is just too much.
Also, I ALWAYS tip minimum 20%.
The example you mentioned about women tending to be lousy tippers or "dine and dashers" just proves not all women are the same--
As I mentioned earlier, I would NEVER short anyone or expect someone else to pick up my tab.
Sidenote--I find those who would "dine and dash" absolutely repugnant, might as well just rob the place! |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Re: restaurant tabs. Its not so difficult. Theres a big difference between reasonable, cheesy, & outright theft.
Reasonable: If you consume far less than your tablemates, you put some money on the table at settling up time & say here, this should more than cover what I had. Everyone's happy.
Cheesy: You calculate things down to units of 100 won & cause a lot of change-making at the door on the way out. Get a life.
Theft: You leave early & purposely leave too little. Or you're always the guy who collects everyone else's contributions & pockets the profit.
I do understand that some people need to be careful with their expenditures (tight budgets, student loan payments, etc). But if you cant really afford to go out with others less constricted, well, dont.
Koreans either go "dutch pay" (split the bill evenly) or if they go out regularly together take turns treating. If you eat out with the same Koreans a few times & never pick up the tab (even though they outwardly insist you dont need to) you'll be viewed as a tightwad.
Generosity is its own reward. The less you stress about your money, the more generous others will be towards you. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
Why can't you just get a purifier yourself and make your water at home?
It's kinda like taking office supplies home...
There's a difference between saving money and passing costs onto someone else. |
Except it's not like that, because you're not costing anyone money. Like I said, there's a difference between taking purchased bottled water home and taking water from a filter. If you don't need to get a purifier at home, why bother? In my view, it's wasteful to make an unnecessary purchase, even if that purchase costs next to nothing. |
Costs the school money.
It's basically like spending as much time as possible at your school in order to soak up free electricity and A/C.
That's stingy and its passing what should be your expenses onto someone else.
Filling up a small bottle so you have something to drink at work is fine. Filling up multiple two liters to take home is violating the spirit of things.
Especially considering that the next person who goes to the water cooler can't get anything because all the water has gone into your 2 liter. |
Did you actually read my post? It's a filter. There is no limit upon the amount of water consumed. As I said previously, if you were taking water from a cooler where the water was brought in, rather than filtered, that is an entirely different issue. As it is, it costs the school nothing, as the filters are already paid for and are switched out on a regular basis (not based on usage). Again, I don't do this, but one individual filling up a two liter isn't going to make a dent in water filters that service around 250 individuals. |
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