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Drew345



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guesthouses have wifi and laundry machines. I asked a K-friend how Koreans do laundry when traveling if staying in motels, and he said they wash stuff in the sink (no coin op laundries). Sometimes I stay in love motels for a night or two, but long term, the wifi and laundry machine make guesthouses the best (only) choice. The price is crazy though.
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Bruce W Sims



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lolimahro wrote:
If I was going on a vacation to Busan (supposing I wasn't bringing my kid with me), I would stay at a place a fair enough distance from the beach, but still convenient by bus or subway to get there in under 30 minutes. Don't know if that rule will save you some money. I would also bring a cooler with my favorite foods/drinks so I could eat in for breakfast and lunch and only eat out for dinner.

I have an almost-3-year old and whenever my family travels we *always* stay at love motels. We usually throw in an extra 5~10,000 won per night to have a room with a bathtub. But the most I've ever paid for a motel stay was 70,000 won per night - during a festival in Namwon. There was not really reliable public transit to the festival sites from our hotel at that time, which was slightly out of town, and all the in-town motels were booked up or charging 150,000 per room per night. Prices get jacked up seasonally and for festivals and that's pretty typical.

Even non-busy, non-famous places like Motel 6's in South Dakota, USA jack up their prices (and gas stations do the same with their gas!) in the summer when everyone wants to go see Mt. Rushmore and play at the Deadwood casinos. (and I use the term "everyone" loosely) So it's not that surprising that one would have to pay 65,000 for a shared room with a stranger per night at a busy beach area during the heat of the summer. That said, I still think motels are the way to go.


Right you are. I think a little perspective might help.

My wife and I like to take roadtrips and one we made was to Sturgis for the 51st Anniversary (August 1991). As we came towards evening, we decided to pull-off the Interstate for the night. The rooms at these places were booked solid and the prices were right around $120USD for the night. The clerk was kind enough to refer us to a family-run motel that was a bit of a drive from the Interstate but yeilded a great little room for the night for $35USD.

Fast-forward to 2011 and another roadtrip to Gettysburg, Pa. Again we stopped for the night along the Interstate. We stayed at a Motel-6 for $35USD.

What made the differences?

a.) Recession verses no recession.

b.) Convenience versus less convenience.

c.) Big name versus lesser name.

d.) Time of year (IE. special event).

Being in Korea does not mean a person doesn't have to shop intelligently or that the same influences one would experience back home don't apply.
You still have to know the market, the available accomodations, locations and general travel patterns for the population. Want to do something spontaneous in Korea with the wife and/or girl friend----in September--- expect headaches. Thats why I don't go downtown Chicago during "Taste of Chicago" in July. Gotta use your head....and thats just not in Korea.

Best Wishes,

Bruce
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tophatcat



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce W Sims wrote:
Lolimahro wrote:
If I was going on a vacation to Busan (supposing I wasn't bringing my kid with me), I would stay at a place a fair enough distance from the beach, but still convenient by bus or subway to get there in under 30 minutes. Don't know if that rule will save you some money. I would also bring a cooler with my favorite foods/drinks so I could eat in for breakfast and lunch and only eat out for dinner.

I have an almost-3-year old and whenever my family travels we *always* stay at love motels. We usually throw in an extra 5~10,000 won per night to have a room with a bathtub. But the most I've ever paid for a motel stay was 70,000 won per night - during a festival in Namwon. There was not really reliable public transit to the festival sites from our hotel at that time, which was slightly out of town, and all the in-town motels were booked up or charging 150,000 per room per night. Prices get jacked up seasonally and for festivals and that's pretty typical.

Even non-busy, non-famous places like Motel 6's in South Dakota, USA jack up their prices (and gas stations do the same with their gas!) in the summer when everyone wants to go see Mt. Rushmore and play at the Deadwood casinos. (and I use the term "everyone" loosely) So it's not that surprising that one would have to pay 65,000 for a shared room with a stranger per night at a busy beach area during the heat of the summer. That said, I still think motels are the way to go.


Right you are. I think a little perspective might help.

My wife and I like to take roadtrips and one we made was to Sturgis for the 51st Anniversary (August 1991). As we came towards evening, we decided to pull-off the Interstate for the night. The rooms at these places were booked solid and the prices were right around $120USD for the night. The clerk was kind enough to refer us to a family-run motel that was a bit of a drive from the Interstate but yeilded a great little room for the night for $35USD.

Fast-forward to 2011 and another roadtrip to Gettysburg, Pa. Again we stopped for the night along the Interstate. We stayed at a Motel-6 for $35USD.

What made the differences?

a.) Recession verses no recession.

b.) Convenience versus less convenience.

c.) Big name versus lesser name.

d.) Time of year (IE. special event).

Being in Korea does not mean a person doesn't have to shop intelligently or that the same influences one would experience back home don't apply.
You still have to know the market, the available accomodations, locations and general travel patterns for the population. Want to do something spontaneous in Korea with the wife and/or girl friend----in September--- expect headaches. Thats why I don't go downtown Chicago during "Taste of Chicago" in July. Gotta use your head....and thats just not in Korea.

Best Wishes,

Bruce


Thanks for the information. Anytime I have a question about anything in Korea, I know you will have the answer. By the way, why was the 606 bus late this morning?
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Bruce W Sims



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stalled in front of my house. Questions?
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ssuprnova



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce W Sims wrote:
Lolimahro wrote:
If I was going on a vacation to Busan (supposing I wasn't bringing my kid with me), I would stay at a place a fair enough distance from the beach, but still convenient by bus or subway to get there in under 30 minutes. Don't know if that rule will save you some money. I would also bring a cooler with my favorite foods/drinks so I could eat in for breakfast and lunch and only eat out for dinner.

I have an almost-3-year old and whenever my family travels we *always* stay at love motels. We usually throw in an extra 5~10,000 won per night to have a room with a bathtub. But the most I've ever paid for a motel stay was 70,000 won per night - during a festival in Namwon. There was not really reliable public transit to the festival sites from our hotel at that time, which was slightly out of town, and all the in-town motels were booked up or charging 150,000 per room per night. Prices get jacked up seasonally and for festivals and that's pretty typical.

Even non-busy, non-famous places like Motel 6's in South Dakota, USA jack up their prices (and gas stations do the same with their gas!) in the summer when everyone wants to go see Mt. Rushmore and play at the Deadwood casinos. (and I use the term "everyone" loosely) So it's not that surprising that one would have to pay 65,000 for a shared room with a stranger per night at a busy beach area during the heat of the summer. That said, I still think motels are the way to go.


Right you are. I think a little perspective might help.

My wife and I like to take roadtrips and one we made was to Sturgis for the 51st Anniversary (August 1991). As we came towards evening, we decided to pull-off the Interstate for the night. The rooms at these places were booked solid and the prices were right around $120USD for the night. The clerk was kind enough to refer us to a family-run motel that was a bit of a drive from the Interstate but yeilded a great little room for the night for $35USD.

Fast-forward to 2011 and another roadtrip to Gettysburg, Pa. Again we stopped for the night along the Interstate. We stayed at a Motel-6 for $35USD.

What made the differences?

a.) Recession verses no recession.

b.) Convenience versus less convenience.

c.) Big name versus lesser name.

d.) Time of year (IE. special event).

Being in Korea does not mean a person doesn't have to shop intelligently or that the same influences one would experience back home don't apply.
You still have to know the market, the available accomodations, locations and general travel patterns for the population. Want to do something spontaneous in Korea with the wife and/or girl friend----in September--- expect headaches. Thats why I don't go downtown Chicago during "Taste of Chicago" in July. Gotta use your head....and thats just not in Korea.

Best Wishes,

Bruce


Captain I-know-everything-about-Korea-even-though-I've-never-lived-there saves the day again. What would we do without him?
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some waygug-in



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to stay at yeogwons for about 25,000 won / night just off the main entrance to Haeundae.

Not everyone's cup of tea I'm sure, but the rooms had air conditioning, TV and were clean. (a bit noisy tho)

They are in the little narrow back alley just in from the main drag.
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northway



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lolimahro wrote:
If I was going on a vacation to Busan (supposing I wasn't bringing my kid with me), I would stay at a place a fair enough distance from the beach, but still convenient by bus or subway to get there in under 30 minutes. Don't know if that rule will save you some money. I would also bring a cooler with my favorite foods/drinks so I could eat in for breakfast and lunch and only eat out for dinner.

I have an almost-3-year old and whenever my family travels we *always* stay at love motels. We usually throw in an extra 5~10,000 won per night to have a room with a bathtub. But the most I've ever paid for a motel stay was 70,000 won per night - during a festival in Namwon. There was not really reliable public transit to the festival sites from our hotel at that time, which was slightly out of town, and all the in-town motels were booked up or charging 150,000 per room per night. Prices get jacked up seasonally and for festivals and that's pretty typical.

Even non-busy, non-famous places like Motel 6's in South Dakota, USA jack up their prices (and gas stations do the same with their gas!) in the summer when everyone wants to go see Mt. Rushmore and play at the Deadwood casinos. (and I use the term "everyone" loosely) So it's not that surprising that one would have to pay 65,000 for a shared room with a stranger per night at a busy beach area during the heat of the summer. That said, I still think motels are the way to go.


In my experience you don't even have to go that far. There's a cluster of love motels three or four stops from Haeundae where I've found rooms for really, really cheap. You're not really walking distance to anything, but it's cheap. That said, it's beyond me why anyone would go to Haeundae in the summer.

Anyway, I'm glad I know how much I can expect to spend on a trip to Gettysburg...
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Bruce W Sims



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssuprnova wrote:

Captain I-know-everything-about-Korea-even-though-I've-never-lived-there saves the day again. What would we do without him?


Quite probably more than might be had with your antagonism and immaturity, I'm sure.
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northway



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce W Sims wrote:
ssuprnova wrote:

Captain I-know-everything-about-Korea-even-though-I've-never-lived-there saves the day again. What would we do without him?


Quite probably more than might be had with your antagonism and immaturity, I'm sure.


You're ridiculous.
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tardisrider



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he's hilarious.
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tardisrider



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew345 wrote:
Guesthouses have wifi and laundry machines. I asked a K-friend how Koreans do laundry when traveling if staying in motels, and he said they wash stuff in the sink (no coin op laundries). Sometimes I stay in love motels for a night or two, but long term, the wifi and laundry machine make guesthouses the best (only) choice. The price is crazy though.


While there are no (or very few) coin op laundries in Korea, most of the corner dry cleaning places will do regular laundry (wash, dry, fold) for a very reasonable rate. To me, that would be a better choice than going to a guest house just because of a washing machine or washing in the sink.
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northway



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tardisrider wrote:
Drew345 wrote:
Guesthouses have wifi and laundry machines. I asked a K-friend how Koreans do laundry when traveling if staying in motels, and he said they wash stuff in the sink (no coin op laundries). Sometimes I stay in love motels for a night or two, but long term, the wifi and laundry machine make guesthouses the best (only) choice. The price is crazy though.


While there are no (or very few) coin op laundries in Korea, most of the corner dry cleaning places will do regular laundry (wash, dry, fold) for a very reasonable rate. To me, that would be a better choice than going to a guest house just because of a washing machine or washing in the sink.


Is the reasonable rate you're quoting a current rate? Everyone I've known who has had clothes washed at dry cleaners the last few years has paid a ton.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't been there for about two years, but it was around 10,000-15,000 Won for about a week's worth of clothes. I talked to a friend recently who still takes his to the same place and said it hasn't changed. Maybe it varies by location or ability to communicate what you want done.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
Lolimahro wrote:
If I was going on a vacation to Busan (supposing I wasn't bringing my kid with me), I would stay at a place a fair enough distance from the beach, but still convenient by bus or subway to get there in under 30 minutes. Don't know if that rule will save you some money. I would also bring a cooler with my favorite foods/drinks so I could eat in for breakfast and lunch and only eat out for dinner.

I have an almost-3-year old and whenever my family travels we *always* stay at love motels. We usually throw in an extra 5~10,000 won per night to have a room with a bathtub. But the most I've ever paid for a motel stay was 70,000 won per night - during a festival in Namwon. There was not really reliable public transit to the festival sites from our hotel at that time, which was slightly out of town, and all the in-town motels were booked up or charging 150,000 per room per night. Prices get jacked up seasonally and for festivals and that's pretty typical.

Even non-busy, non-famous places like Motel 6's in South Dakota, USA jack up their prices (and gas stations do the same with their gas!) in the summer when everyone wants to go see Mt. Rushmore and play at the Deadwood casinos. (and I use the term "everyone" loosely) So it's not that surprising that one would have to pay 65,000 for a shared room with a stranger per night at a busy beach area during the heat of the summer. That said, I still think motels are the way to go.


In my experience you don't even have to go that far. There's a cluster of love motels three or four stops from Haeundae where I've found rooms for really, really cheap. You're not really walking distance to anything, but it's cheap. That said, it's beyond me why anyone would go to Haeundae in the summer.

Anyway, I'm glad I know how much I can expect to spend on a trip to Gettysburg...


Haeundae in the summer = human parking lot

Then again, it's one of the few places you'll see oiled up Korean girls in bikinis unless you want to cram yourself in by the pool at the Hamilton in Itaewon.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

definitely maybe wrote:
northway wrote:
Lolimahro wrote:
If I was going on a vacation to Busan (supposing I wasn't bringing my kid with me), I would stay at a place a fair enough distance from the beach, but still convenient by bus or subway to get there in under 30 minutes. Don't know if that rule will save you some money. I would also bring a cooler with my favorite foods/drinks so I could eat in for breakfast and lunch and only eat out for dinner.

I have an almost-3-year old and whenever my family travels we *always* stay at love motels. We usually throw in an extra 5~10,000 won per night to have a room with a bathtub. But the most I've ever paid for a motel stay was 70,000 won per night - during a festival in Namwon. There was not really reliable public transit to the festival sites from our hotel at that time, which was slightly out of town, and all the in-town motels were booked up or charging 150,000 per room per night. Prices get jacked up seasonally and for festivals and that's pretty typical.

Even non-busy, non-famous places like Motel 6's in South Dakota, USA jack up their prices (and gas stations do the same with their gas!) in the summer when everyone wants to go see Mt. Rushmore and play at the Deadwood casinos. (and I use the term "everyone" loosely) So it's not that surprising that one would have to pay 65,000 for a shared room with a stranger per night at a busy beach area during the heat of the summer. That said, I still think motels are the way to go.


In my experience you don't even have to go that far. There's a cluster of love motels three or four stops from Haeundae where I've found rooms for really, really cheap. You're not really walking distance to anything, but it's cheap. That said, it's beyond me why anyone would go to Haeundae in the summer.

Anyway, I'm glad I know how much I can expect to spend on a trip to Gettysburg...


Haeundae in the summer = human parking lot

Then again, it's one of the few places you'll see oiled up Korean girls in bikinis unless you want to cram yourself in by the pool at the Hamilton in Itaewon.


and why is seeing said girls in bikinis that enticing?

they don't have anything to fill them out with. Of course, I'd agree it's better than watching pallid pink beached Western whales in the same bikini.

btw re pricing.

against my better judgment I bought a pair of flip flops at E mart because my old Brazilian ones finally broke (I think paid 2 bucks for them). The cheapest ones at E mart were about 10K won. Piece of complete crap. Horrid quality and too small. So I paid 15K for the seemingly best kind that fit my size 11 feet. (they're similar to my old 2 dollar pair of Brazilian ones I bought from a streetvendor in Rio). Now in Indonesia, I go to the local supermarket, and see a really nice rugged pair of re-inforced flip flops with extra cushioning for 3 dollars.
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