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mtm216



Joined: 16 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:29 am    Post subject: public vs private Reply with quote

Does anyone have any preference between the two?
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Public is fixed, usually with more security when it comes to working conditions and pay. Private schools are more of a gamble because they vary in size and management.

There is talk recently public schools will hire less teachers, but that shouldn't mean if you are hired you will lose your job.

Treat every school as a potential employer and post a contract you like the most in the contract thread.

Also, consider afterschool programs.
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marsavalanche



Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

private schools (hagwons) rock.

take a 9-630 kindy gig and dont look bad. you'll be living the dream.
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shostahoosier



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer public schools because they have more security, but it's the luck of the draw and you could end up with a crappy public school job.

Some of it will come down to your personality though. A good public school job or hagwon good can become bad if your school doesnt like you.

Hagwons can be awesome if you do a lot of research and find a good one.

If you're using a recruiter, DO NOT let them pressure you into a hagwon position that does not 100% satisfy you.
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the OP means private vs. public as in high school, middle, or elementary. Private schools depend on what the principal is like. Nepotism is par for the course at private schools. Depends on how well they treat you. You can be disliked fast or held for many years if they like you and the funds are there.
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mtm216



Joined: 16 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input. I've been in contact with YBM ECC but I also heard you work long hours for lower pay than normal. I would take a lower pay and be happy than making a few extra bucks and being miserable.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:53 pm    Post subject: Re: public vs private Reply with quote

mtm216 wrote:
Does anyone have any preference between the two?


Private schools (k-12) are usually best.

Public schools make a close 2nd (in terms of job benefits and security - usually no funny business with your pay and benefits, longer holidays and lower class loads).

Private language academies (hagwans - and they are NOT schools) are at the bottom of the list (as a general class) for any number of reasons not the least of which are: holiday issues, pay and overtime issues, 11 month termination (to avoid severance and return flight), no pension, and no NHIC medical (in spite of what you are told).

mtm216 wrote:
Thanks for the input. I've been in contact with YBM ECC but I also heard you work long hours for lower pay than normal. I would take a lower pay and be happy than making a few extra bucks and being miserable.


They are NOT a school. They are a language academy and depending on whether you work at a company operation or a franchise, the job conditions vary widely (complete will all the attendant risks common to all hagwans).

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NohopeSeriously



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far, public schools in Korea (elementary, middle, high schools funded by the gov't or private universities) are becoming increasingly irrelevant.
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jeremysums



Joined: 08 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: public vs private Reply with quote

Some people do it for the better wages.


mtm216 wrote:
Does anyone have any preference between the two?
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shostahoosier



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NohopeSeriously wrote:
So far, public schools in Korea (elementary, middle, high schools funded by the gov't or private universities) are becoming increasingly irrelevant.



What do you mean?
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shostahoosier wrote:
NohopeSeriously wrote:
So far, public schools in Korea (elementary, middle, high schools funded by the gov't or private universities) are becoming increasingly irrelevant.

What do you mean?

Ignore they guy.
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oldtrafford



Joined: 12 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far, public schools in Korea (elementary, middle, high schools funded by the gov't or private universities) are becoming increasingly irrelevant.

What do you mean?

Ignore they guy.


At your peril my friend!!
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

See very long post about GEPIK 'teachers' are getting AXED!!! Sad Sad Sad Sad
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oldtrafford



Joined: 12 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHY!!!?

No Teacheee skill
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldtrafford wrote:
So far, public schools in Korea (elementary, middle, high schools funded by the gov't or private universities) are becoming increasingly irrelevant.

What do you mean?

Ignore they guy.


At your peril my friend!!
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

See very long post about GEPIK 'teachers' are getting AXED!!! Sad Sad Sad Sad

Just because they are chopping GEPIK doesn't mean the public system is doomed.

The guy is advocating an education system entirely run by the private sector. If you want to see cuts, the private sector has plenty.
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Ice Tea



Joined: 23 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One very big negative about working at public schools is that you are expendable. Whereas at a hagwon you are the core of their business, at a public school you are little more than a novelty. The GEPIK school teachers learned the hard way just how unnecessary they are. Hagwons need you way more than you need them, which is precisely why they are constantly playing games to try and keep the balance of power in their favor.

Hagwons can be good, but you have separate the good from the bad. One very simple way to do this is to not accept any contract that doesn't have National Pension Plan and National Health Insurance in it. Schools that do provide these are usually on the up and up.
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