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weso1
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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 Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject: Japanese in Seoul/Korea |
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I really enjoyed my time in Japan and I miss it daily. But sadly, the work there is terrible. People complain about Korea, trust me, it's a breeze here. I get paid nearly 50% more a month and I don't have to wear a suit and tie to work every day. Also my workload is a lot less.
But I still miss being around my Japanese friends and having a Jgf.
Where can I meet Japanese in Seoul or around Korea? I don't mean the tourists here for the weekend, I mean the long timers? It would be nice to brush up on my Japanese again and give me a break from the kimchi crowd, haha. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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There is a Japanese language club in Sinchon near Woodstock and the meat alley.
You can check out Little Tokyo by Dongbu Icheon-dong but it's quite small.
Or you can meet up with Japanese who are studying Korean at Yonsei or other universities around Seoul. |
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shostahoosier
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
There is a Japanese language club in Sinchon near Woodstock and the meat alley.
You can check out Little Tokyo by Dongbu Icheon-dong but it's quite small.
Or you can meet up with Japanese who are studying Korean at Yonsei or other universities around Seoul. |
Yeah most of the Japanese people that I know in Korea are around university areas.
The ones that arent are too busy with work to socialize much. |
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cert43
Joined: 17 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| Koreans are too much of "wanna-be" Japanese'. |
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jeremysums
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese in Seoul/Korea |
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It's expensive to live in Japan esp. Tokyo.
| weso1 wrote: |
I really enjoyed my time in Japan and I miss it daily. But sadly, the work there is terrible. People complain about Korea, trust me, it's a breeze here. I get paid nearly 50% more a month and I don't have to wear a suit and tie to work every day. Also my workload is a lot less.
But I still miss being around my Japanese friends and having a Jgf.
Where can I meet Japanese in Seoul or around Korea? I don't mean the tourists here for the weekend, I mean the long timers? It would be nice to brush up on my Japanese again and give me a break from the kimchi crowd, haha. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| There are TONS of Japanese tourists in Myongdong DAILY. Amazing amounts. |
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shostahoosier
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| cert43 wrote: |
| Koreans are too much of "wanna-be" Japanese'. |
What do you mean? |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese in Seoul/Korea |
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| weso1 wrote: |
I really enjoyed my time in Japan and I miss it daily. But sadly, the work there is terrible. People complain about Korea, trust me, it's a breeze here. I get paid nearly 50% more a month and I don't have to wear a suit and tie to work every day. Also my workload is a lot less.
But I still miss being around my Japanese friends and having a Jgf.
Where can I meet Japanese in Seoul or around Korea? I don't mean the tourists here for the weekend, I mean the long timers? It would be nice to brush up on my Japanese again and give me a break from the kimchi crowd, haha. |
Someone else to mirror what I discovered, finally. Everyone on the forums here thinks that working in Japan is always better than working in Korea 100% of the time simply because they haven't done it.
I worked in Japan and thought it was crap. I worked harder than here for 1/10th of the respect, half the pay, double the expenses, half the job security and 1/10th of the responsibility. My job was not to get in anybody's way and look really good doing it. I almost got fired for folding my arms and not closing the door all the way in the teacher's room  |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese in Seoul/Korea |
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[quote="myenglishisno"]
| weso1 wrote: |
Someone else to mirror what I discovered, finally. Everyone on the forums here thinks that working in Japan is always better than working in Korea 100% of the time simply because they haven't done it.
I worked in Japan and thought it was crap. I worked harder than here for 1/10th of the respect, half the pay, double the expenses, half the job security and 1/10th of the responsibility. My job was not to get in anybody's way and look really good doing it. I almost got fired for folding my arms and not closing the door all the way in the teacher's room |
I worked and studied in Japan (esl and another job) and I love the Japanese with all my heart. Im a bit of a tech otaku. but I agree, Korea's got the job thing beat, esp if youre a bit open and cool with the hiccups that go on here. that said. i too miss J-girls, and the incredible shopping and the Japanese esthetic.
Someone said to before: in Japan, you can be a bit of a whatever and noone will bother you if youre respectful. in Korea, you can be as plain as can be and everyone will bother you, even if you are respectful. everyday, in everyway, sigh..... |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Anyway, it seems the Japanese don't congregate like Koreans do abroad so it can be harder to find them. Many speak Korean good enough to mix in with Koreans, too.
One way you can meet more is to post an offer for language exchange. |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon
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| Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:24 am Post subject: Re: Japanese in Seoul/Korea |
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[quote="happiness"]
| myenglishisno wrote: |
| weso1 wrote: |
Someone else to mirror what I discovered, finally. Everyone on the forums here thinks that working in Japan is always better than working in Korea 100% of the time simply because they haven't done it.
I worked in Japan and thought it was crap. I worked harder than here for 1/10th of the respect, half the pay, double the expenses, half the job security and 1/10th of the responsibility. My job was not to get in anybody's way and look really good doing it. I almost got fired for folding my arms and not closing the door all the way in the teacher's room |
I worked and studied in Japan (esl and another job) and I love the Japanese with all my heart. Im a bit of a tech otaku. but I agree, Korea's got the job thing beat, esp if youre a bit open and cool with the hiccups that go on here. that said. i too miss J-girls, and the incredible shopping and the Japanese esthetic.
Someone said to before: in Japan, you can be a bit of a whatever and noone will bother you if youre respectful. in Korea, you can be as plain as can be and everyone will bother you, even if you are respectful. everyday, in everyway, sigh..... |
I think if you have a good job in Japan, then living there wins over Korea hands down. The problem is that it's damned near impossible to get such a job unless it's in an industry that doesn't involve teaching English.
The average English teacher in Japan makes around the same as what a clerk at 7-11 gets in Tokyo. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| Anyway, it seems the Japanese don't congregate like Koreans do abroad so it can be harder to find them. |
Probably because the Japanese don't emigrate in the same numbers as they used to. Most Japanese in other countries are at least 3rd generation and integrating into the local population. |
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marsavalanche
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish
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| Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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what is he average wage in japan right now? (ets say korea is 2.1 right now) in terms of won?
i also miss living in japan. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Another funny thing is that if you don't speak Japanese, you can practice Korean with Japanese studying in Korea since their English is pretty lacking. |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| marsavalanche wrote: |
what is he average wage in japan right now? (ets say korea is 2.1 right now) in terms of won?
i also miss living in japan. |
Between 1.8m and 2.3m in WON for an average first-year salary in Japan (dispatch company). You can probably get up to 2.7-2.9 in a few years once you get privates/move beyond working for a dispatch and work for a good Eikaiwa.
There is no airfare, you pay your own rent (expensive), more and more dispatch companies are requiring you to rent a vehicle from them in order to get to all your schools (around 300k per month to rent on average) and you're responsible for just about everything up to and including finding your own apartment and doing all of that. The cost of living is about twice as high as Korea if you're in the Tokyo/Saitama area as I was.
I couldn't save a penny most months. Many dispatches only pay you exactly for the hours you've taught and will deduct $100 from your pay if you're even ten minutes late (standard late fee). Also, you're required to pay for your own furnishings and pay an upfront fee for your apartment that can be over $1000 and you don't get it back.
It's also really easy to be fired. There is a startling amount of competition even for the crappiest jobs. My co-workers and I were being threatened with being fired on a regular basis and our jobs sucked horribly. We were deathly afraid of being fired because if we were fired, very few of us had enough money to get back home. |
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