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Korean courts sentence American to two years in prison
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sirius black



Joined: 04 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep thinking there has to be something missing. Did he have $88 dollars of more on him? Can he account for his whereabouts at the time this took place? Was he on his phone or sent texts that happened during that time? Military guys often travel in pairs or groups, was someone with him? Maybe he was in a store at the time and someone remembered him? It just doesn't add up. Not saying he did it but it just seems a relatively easy thing to prove your innocence.

Some random Korean guy says you robbed him 30 minutes ago, I can account for my whereabouts more times than not, especially while out shopping, sight seeing, etc.
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting article about it here:

http://rokdrop.com/2011/07/23/was-usfk-soldier-andre-fisher-falsely-convicted-by-a-korean-court/

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A common thing in all this news story is that they all just repeat what Andre Fisher�s friends and family are saying and none of them do their own investigation into the matter. Even more curious about this case is that I can�t find anything in the Korean media about the case, which leaves us once again with just what the friends and family are saying.


Basically, we don't know enough to make a judgement yet. If anyone has any solid information, please post it.

However, there is one disturbing fact from the article above:

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PFC Fisher�s lawyer actually gave him the best advice that would have seen him likely out of jail right now, which was to plead guilty.


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The fact that PFC Fisher refused to plead guilty even though doing so likely would have seen him face no jail time leads me to believe he probably didn�t do it.


It seems the system is unjust to people who are actually innocent and who say so. Guilty until proven innocent?

Hope to find out more.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, cab drivers here do not undergo criminal background checks.

So, unless this cab driver has obtained one, had it certified, notarized, and apostilled, how can anyone take him at his word?

Just sayin'.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leslie Cheswyck wrote:
cab drivers here do not undergo criminal background checks


You are correct. E2 English teachers and American soldiers do, but cab drivers do not.
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This isn�t the first time I�ve heard that many taxi drivers have records, as supposedly it�s one of the few jobs available to ex-convicts.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2633057
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Despite a record of 15 convictions for sexual assault and other crimes he became a taxi driver.

An official of the taxi company that employed Mr. Lim said that �we did not inquire about it (the prior convictions) and just looked at his resume� because we never have enough people.�

In March of last year 41-year-old Mr. Ahn abducted, sexually assaulted, and murdered three female passengers in Cheongju.

Mr. Ahn also had previous convictions for sex crimes


More about the case here:

http://media.wilknewsradio.com/a/42844408/bob-and-sandy-fisher-part-1.htm
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Menino80



Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Location: Hodor?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Gotta' hire a good lawyer. His sounds like he let him down.


The system shoulders the blame here.
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Menino80



Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Location: Hodor?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

methdxman wrote:
Anytime an American gets trouble abroad, they always play the same card that the justice system is flawed in ________.

Same thing over and over again.



Such as?
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just not seeing how this dude was let down. He had military legal observers before, during, and after the trial, he was treated the way the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) requires, the charges against him were not kept secret, and the trial was not some secret Star Chamber thing. If he'd been railroaded, the US military legal observers would've said something officially about it. They haven't. Additionally, the story his family's telling doesn't pass the smell test.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. Unless more comes out for this, it just sounds like an upset family.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. And it's utter baloney that the guy's CO said, "You're obviously guilty, so I'm going to turn you over to the Koreans."
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