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Korean immigration/gov keeps notarized degree on file?

 
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mikeybhoy



Joined: 14 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:55 pm    Post subject: Korean immigration/gov keeps notarized degree on file? Reply with quote

I have just left korea after a two year stint and in the last two months had to surrender a notarized degree to fulfill the new guideline. When I asked my employer for it back, they seemed very confused and the following day explained that immigration holds it for future reference. Is this the case? So, i can skip this process on my next visa, or have I been lied to once again. Id like to save money and time.
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northway



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is that you're not supposed to submit the original because you don't get it back.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing kept on file is if you failed a drug test. If you pass, take again until failure Razz
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean immigration/gov keeps notarized degree on file? Reply with quote

mikeybhoy wrote:
I have just left korea after a two year stint and in the last two months had to surrender a notarized degree to fulfill the new guideline. When I asked my employer for it back, they seemed very confused and the following day explained that immigration holds it for future reference. Is this the case? So, i can skip this process on my next visa, or have I been lied to once again. Id like to save money and time.


Kimmi keeps them.
- they do go in your paper file.

You will probably have to submit new ones again (apostilled degree copy and CRC) for a new visa.

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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean immigration/gov keeps notarized degree on file? Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
mikeybhoy wrote:
I have just left korea after a two year stint and in the last two months had to surrender a notarized degree to fulfill the new guideline. When I asked my employer for it back, they seemed very confused and the following day explained that immigration holds it for future reference. Is this the case? So, i can skip this process on my next visa, or have I been lied to once again. Id like to save money and time.


Kimmi keeps them.
- they do go in your paper file.

You will probably have to submit new ones again (apostilled degree copy and CRC) for a new visa.

.


With all due respect- are you sure?

If immi keeps your degree why the resubmit for new visas? Confused
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean immigration/gov keeps notarized degree on file? Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
mikeybhoy wrote:
I have just left korea after a two year stint and in the last two months had to surrender a notarized degree to fulfill the new guideline. When I asked my employer for it back, they seemed very confused and the following day explained that immigration holds it for future reference. Is this the case? So, i can skip this process on my next visa, or have I been lied to once again. Id like to save money and time.


Kimmi keeps them.
- they do go in your paper file.

You will probably have to submit new ones again (apostilled degree copy and CRC) for a new visa.

.


With all due respect- are you sure?

If immi keeps your degree why the resubmit for new visas? Confused


In theory, under the new rules, you should be good for 10 years.
(you would be for transfers).

In PRACTICE they require a new copy EVERY TIME you apply for a new visa.

Don't take my word for it. Try and apply without it. I'd be very interested in the response from Kimmi but I suspect it would be a denial (if the recruiter/school even bothers to try without a new copy).

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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paper file? Hmm...

I know that they scan them and have them on the computer - I got in an argument about turning in my drug/aids test in 2009 and the woman at immigration said "look for yourself" and turned the computer to me. Everything I had submitted to my school - degree, transcripts, apostilles, criminal checks - all of it was on the computer.

I've HEARD that as long as you don't leave Korea for more than 3 months, you don't have to submit a new criminal check IF you've turned in the federal check (for Americans). That's what the woman at immigration told me when I turned my CBC in early. Food for thought.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
Paper file? Hmm...

I know that they scan them and have them on the computer - I got in an argument about turning in my drug/aids test in 2009 and the woman at immigration said "look for yourself" and turned the computer to me. Everything I had submitted to my school - degree, transcripts, apostilles, criminal checks - all of it was on the computer.

I've HEARD that as long as you don't leave Korea for more than 3 months, you don't have to submit a new criminal check IF you've turned in the federal check (for Americans). That's what the woman at immigration told me when I turned my CBC in early. Food for thought.


Yes, buried away there is a paper file with everything you have submitted.
(they actually dug mine out when I first applied for an F5).

AS I said above, in THEORY you only need to submit them once and you should be good for up to 10 years

BUT

IN PRACTICE it is another matter.

Theory doesn't meet practice = welcome to Korea.

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Feloria



Joined: 02 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ nathanrutledge--
If I'm not mistaken, you DON'T have to go through the entire CBC, Apostille degree process again if you are IN Korea and TRANSFERRING your Visa to another job(you'd need an LOR, but that's another matter).
**you would need another CBC if you were out of the country(KR) for more than 3 months**
Since the OP has already left Korea and given up his ARC, he has to apply for a new Visa-thus all new documents.
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Cranberryopah



Joined: 05 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feloria wrote:
@ nathanrutledge--
If I'm not mistaken, you DON'T have to go through the entire CBC, Apostille degree process again if you are IN Korea and TRANSFERRING your Visa to another job(you'd need an LOR, but that's another matter).
**you would need another CBC if you were out of the country(KR) for more than 3 months**
Since the OP has already left Korea and given up his ARC, he has to apply for a new Visa-thus all new documents.

I've been in S.K for 20 months, just came back from a 21 day holiday visit to Canada. While there I got a new CRC and had it notarized, but forgot to take home my degree to get another copy notarized. I intend to directly transfer my visa from one job to another w/o any gaps.

Do I need to get a copy of my degree notarized by Kimmi and/or the Canadian Consulate?
How do I do it all from here. I heard that the Canadian Consulate in Seoul no longer notarizes degrees.
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