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andyrider
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Kuros
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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The decline begins. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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This is absolutely bad for the USA. |
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ZIFA
Joined: 23 Feb 2011 Location: Dici che il fiume..Trova la via al mare
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Relax folks, unemployment is falling.
Standard & poors is only one credit agency. There are others. And they are keeping the US at AAA. |
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visitorq
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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By lowering the government's credit rating, the same banksters who run the rating agencies (and fraudulently rated all the toxic derivatives leading up to the 2008 crisis as AAA pure gold) are making it more expensive for the government to incur debt in the future (since US bonds are now a riskier investment). In the end all that extra interest will be paid over to the same zombie banks around around the world (including those that own the Federal Reserve, which "lends" the government money created out of thin air) and this after we just signed on for trillions in bail outs to save the financial sector from collapse.
So in other words: the US taxpayer signs on to give trillions to the banks at zero interest, which effectively transforms the bank debt into government debt, and then these same banks turn around and "lend" that money back to the US at interest, and finally get the ratings agencies (who are in their back pocket) to lower the credit rating and jack up interest yields on bonds, meaning more money for the banks. It's all wanton criminality and such an utterly monumental scam that I really wonder how many of your average Americans will be capable of doing the above mental gymnastics required to understand the situation... |
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rainism
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:18 am Post subject: |
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YAWN.
the credit agencies were one of the primary parties responsible for the mortgage crisis and the economic decline that followed.
they have about zero credibility at the moment.
now they have to try to regain some cred back, and the best way to do it is to grab attention by being super aware, after being asleep at the wheel for a decade.
besides, it doesn't matter.. they downgraded Japan several times, yet the Japanese bonds and Japanese Yen skyrocketed. |
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lithium

Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:38 am Post subject: |
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ZIFA wrote: |
Relax folks, unemployment is falling.
Standard & poors is only one credit agency. There are others. And they are keeping the US at AAA. |
Unemployment fell to 9.1% only because more people stopped looking for employment. The actual unemployment number is significantly higher. Let's face it, when Obama stated prior to being immaculated that he was "...5 days away from fundamentally changing America," this is what he was talking about. He wants America on the level with socialist Europe.
Let's all hope and pray that a real leader like Rick Perry will be our next President. |
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johnnyenglishteacher2
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:27 am Post subject: |
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lithium wrote: |
when Obama stated prior to being immaculated that he was "...5 days away from fundamentally changing America," this is what he was talking about. He wants America on the level with socialist Europe.
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Would that be the Europe of Germany, the Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, Scandinavia, Flemish Belgium? Or are you talking about PIGS, France, Walloon Belgium and (light-touch regulation) UK and Ireland?
You talk about Europe as if it's 1 country. It isn't. Please read this, then bang your head against the wall repeatedly until this simple fact has entered your head. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:53 am Post subject: |
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johnnyenglishteacher2 wrote: |
lithium wrote: |
when Obama stated prior to being immaculated that he was "...5 days away from fundamentally changing America," this is what he was talking about. He wants America on the level with socialist Europe.
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Would that be the Europe of Germany, the Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, Scandinavia, Flemish Belgium? Or are you talking about PIGS, France, Walloon Belgium and (light-touch regulation) UK and Ireland?
You talk about Europe as if it's 1 country. It isn't. Please read this, then bang your head against the wall repeatedly until this simple fact has entered your head. |
Well, to be fair Europe does basically function like a single country in some ways, like having a single European central bank (minus the UK and couple others) and bureaucracy etc. Kind of like how the US has different states and regions which vary culturally but are controlled by a central authority and share a common currency.
Anyway, I thought I was basically agreeing with him up till the last part where he suggested the globalist stooge and Bilderberg attendee (and ex campaign manager of Al Gore) Rick Perry as a possible good leader... |
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