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Kimbop
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whoami
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Kimbop
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No, for law-abiding citizens, who coincidentally may need protection not only from illegally-armed scum like Mark Duggan, but also from crooked cops. |
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bigverne
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| When young, English liberals riot: |
These are not 'English liberals,' but the criminal underclass going on the rampage. |
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Totti
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Nothing to do with liberals. They're opportunist thugs. |
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Kimbop
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Trust me, these 'thugs' predominantly vote for left-wing parties who promise no cutbacks in tuition, welfare, healthcare, etc. They're young, entitled welfare immigrants who vote labour. The riots started in Tottenham, a basket case of liberal entitlement multiculti-socialism, whose residents -- for decades -- have elected exclusively left-wing candidates:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/election2010/results/region/3.stm
Young people are rioting. Young people overwhelmingly vote left-wing. Correlation, not causation, perhaps, except in the case of labour MP John McDonnell:
Ya'll heard that! The riots are justified and are occuring because British 50% income taxes have for decades been too low! |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Trust me, these 'thugs' predominantly vote for left-wing parties who promise no cutbacks in tuition, welfare, healthcare, etc. They're young, entitled welfare immigrants who vote labour |
I have no sympathy for these feral scumbags, but to call them 'left-wing,' or to even suggest that these imbeciles vote (lol!) is absurd. Some of them are clearly too young to vote, would be too stupid or illiterate to register, or just wouldn't care.
A criminal, welfare-dependent, and amoral underclass has been festering for decades in many cities in the UK, and now all the world can see it. |
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Totti
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Trust me, these 'thugs' predominantly vote for left-wing parties who promise no cutbacks in tuition, welfare, healthcare, etc. They're young, entitled welfare immigrants who vote labour |
I have no sympathy for these feral scumbags, but to call them 'left-wing,' or to even suggest that these imbeciles vote (lol!) is absurd. Some of them are clearly too young to vote, would be too stupid or illiterate to register, or just wouldn't care.
A criminal, welfare-dependent, and amoral underclass has been festering for decades in many cities in the UK, and now all the world can see it. |
Absolutely spot on.
These are just kids looking to cause trouble because they can. To even suggest that they're all 'liberal voters' is laughable. I seriously doubt if most of them are old enough to vote. |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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A criminal, welfare-dependent, and amoral underclass has been festering for decades in many cities in the UK, and now all the world can see it. |
Sadly, this is true. A sub-section of this generation fear nothing, respect nothing and riot and loot now simply because they can. When I was a young idealist I never imagined that I would say something like this, but I'm seriously hoping to see the police cracking the heads of those who deserve it. Unfortunately, that category would also include the namby-pamby liberal politicians who feel that these thugs just need counselling, understanding and hugs. I worry for the future. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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Kimbop is working for the propaganda machine. He doesn't care what happened in the news, but it's something bad, so slap the label 'liberal' on it and make it a talking point.
Later on it can be recycled as 'evidence' that 'liberals' are bad.
Why are you working for them Kimbop? Practising to be a radio host or TV presenter? Actually getting paid? Or just so heavily indoctrinated you do it for free?
Don't bother telling me I work for the 'liberal' media. Get your own lines. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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I'm as curious to see what will happen in England in the next 10 years as I am the USA.
The USA has a growing culture of flash-mob violence. To quote Massad Ayoob on the subject:
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"Violent mob attacks do indeed suffice to warrant deadly force. If this trend continues, it's only a matter of time before some shots are fired.
While any member of the mob shares the general jeopardy accruing from the reasonable fear their actions have created, be particularly careful not to fire at members who are retreating or not attacking.
On the surface, it seems an excellent reason to carry an 18- 20-shot pistol. However, the late Dave Arnold, who was involved in mob control incidents on another continent, felt a six-shot revolver was enough because in his experience, when the gunfire started the mob reversed course.
Key thing here is going to be avoidance. 20 people aren't going to emerge from the mists and suddenly be surrounding you. Avoidance/escape will definitely be Plan A." |
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northway
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| I'm not too sure about how things play in the UK, but their societal counterparts stateside would most probably not be registered to vote. |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| The USA has a growing culture of flash-mob violence |
You forgot to mention that it is largely black mob violence directed at (mostly) whites, as witnessed in the racist attacks at the Wisconsin state fair. |
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recessiontime
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| Am I the only one that thinks that these kids are rioting because there isn't much opportunity over there? I'm pretty sure I'd be jobless, unemployed and have nothing better to do than riot if I grew up there and held a worthless degree with a bunch of debt. I complain a lot about the job situation in Toronto but London seems worse. |
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bigverne
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| recessiontime wrote: |
| Am I the only one that thinks that these kids are rioting because there isn't much opportunity over there? I'm pretty sure I'd be jobless, unemployed and have nothing better to do than riot if I grew up there and held a worthless degree with a bunch of debt. I complain a lot about the job situation in Toronto but London seems worse. |
I'll take a leap in the dark here and presume that most of these scumbags dropped out of school at 16 (or earlier), have never had a job in their lives, and make their income through the benefit system and crime. They smelled police weakness and took their opportunity to steal, riot, and rob. They are not innocent victims swept up by economic forces beyond their control. |
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