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gem
Joined: 06 Dec 2010
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:01 am Post subject: |
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So goes for the foreign female who arrives in Korea -- she is open minded but her power status is reversed compared to the West/U.S. and she is judged on looks and charm, not coolness, intelligence, open mind. Resentment sets in when she realizes how Korean men (the typical ones) view her.
Foreign females from 2nd3rd world countries who are Caucasian do very well with Korean men as k-men are super generous and romantic. Also those perceived as minorities in the states love them. But 1st world white females are simply out of sync with most Korean men unless the guys are artists/hipsters, businessmen or those who have lived abroad who can culturally translate.
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Your entire post rings very true to me except the part about resentment. I can't even take compliments or flirtation from Korean guys seriously. Even the coolest, attractive ones are easily brushed off and forgotten. The connection simply isn't there. Do you really think the same girls who are simply out of sync (agreed 100%) with most Korean men care in the least about what most Korean guys think of her? |
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glassandshells
Joined: 12 Jun 2011
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:13 am Post subject: |
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think i have a shot with taeyang?  |
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Giant

Joined: 14 May 2003 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Coming to the point of why its hard for a woman to date a serious man in Korea, the truth is... most men who come here looking for a relashionsip are socially dysfunctional. They cant hack it back home, so they come here where they can be treated as kings even when they would never be given a second look back home. I have lost count how many times I have seen a sorry to say 'average/borderline ugly' guy with a pretty good looking Korean girl. They could NEVER pull that off back home.
Also, Korean men just like most western, just want the foreign experience. I hate the way korean men look at my wife (who is non-Korean BTW), simply because she has big boobs. I almost wanted to punch a few the way they stare.... Korean men dont really have any social skills and I would guess still prefer the matchmaker scene. No work for them, just go on blind dates and hope for the best.
My advice is look for someone from your own culture.
Just my 2 cents which comes from being in Korea for over 10 years now.  |
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the_curious
Joined: 04 Oct 2010
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Wow, a lot of you sound like you should be on boycottamericanwomen.blogspot.com. Every time I hear some guy complaining about how selfish and horrible Western women are, I picture some fat, middle-aged slob who couldn't land girls back home.
A lot of Korean men here are "curious" about white women (sexually). That doesn't mean they will want to be in a relationship with you. Beware.
Korean men also LIE a lot more than men do back home. Or if not outright lie, bend the truth in ridiculous ways.
Finally, it's difficult to land a "top of the heap" guy for any number of reasons--but not because Western women are fat, ugly, or inherently less desirable than Korean women. I think one big factor is that there is an increasing gap between the number of educated women and the number of educated women in Korea, with the higher number on the girls' side (http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2938319). This means you will be facing a lot of competition for a guy who is your equal in looks and schooling. A great deal of that competition will speak Korean language fluently and know the ins and the outs of the culture far better than you, placing you at an automatic disadvantage.
Most of the women I know who have married Korean guys here are in unconventional relationships, with the wife being the primary breadwinner. The husbands, while not necessarily uneducated, lack steady jobs or other characteristics that would make them choice prizes in the eyes of the general populace. However, there are always exceptions to the rule. Like some of the other posters have said, the more you bring to the table, the better you will do.
Also, if Korean guys aren't your thing, don't worry too much. Plenty of the "foreign" guys here *aren't* bitter losers and are also into non-Korean girls. You can have your pick--European, American, Aussie, Middle Eastern, etc. etc.
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Ribena
Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Surely you can go a year without dating? Why spend alot of time worrying about who can or can't date because this or that cultural reason. Why not just enjoy your time and see what happens. You might meet someone you like or not. Doesn't seem something worth worrying about. |
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glassandshells
Joined: 12 Jun 2011
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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the_curious wrote: |
Wow, a lot of you sound like you should be on boycottamericanwomen.blogspot.com. |
oh my god. i thought you made that up.  |
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glassandshells
Joined: 12 Jun 2011
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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the_curious wrote: |
Plenty of the "foreign" guys here *aren't* bitter losers and are also into non-Korean girls. You can have your pick--European, American, Aussie, Middle Eastern, etc. etc. |
good to know.  |
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glassandshells
Joined: 12 Jun 2011
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Ribena wrote: |
Why spend alot of time worrying about who can or can't date because this or that cultural reason. Why not just enjoy your time and see what happens. You might meet someone you like or not. Doesn't seem something worth worrying about. |
i agree. maybe i'm wrong, but i don't expect dating will be too different than at home except that the dating pool may be a bit smaller. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Draz wrote: |
The Korean guys I've actually dated have been the bossy unpleasant kind, but it does seem reasonable to think the nice ones are just intimidated. |
Yup. So start approaching them first ladies! Man up! er....you know..
I've had lots of decent Korean guy friends and they were so shy around my foreign girl friends. But after the girls left the guys were always curious. They wrongly assumed the foreign girls automatically didn't like Asian guys. This is 2011 and things are changing though. I was a good matchmaker for awhile and I fully support Korean guys getting with foreign girls; it can definitely work out but it's hard to make the initial first step. So ladies, be proactive here! At the very least they will be curious so ride the wave and make the best of it.... |
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Ribena
Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Mix1 wrote: |
Draz wrote: |
The Korean guys I've actually dated have been the bossy unpleasant kind, but it does seem reasonable to think the nice ones are just intimidated. |
Yup. So start approaching them first ladies! Man up! er....you know..
I've had lots of decent Korean guy friends and they were so shy around my foreign girl friends. But after the girls left the guys were always curious. They wrongly assumed the foreign girls automatically didn't like Asian guys. This is 2011 and things are changing though. I was a good matchmaker for awhile and I fully support Korean guys getting with foreign girls; it can definitely work out but it's hard to make the initial first step. So ladies, be proactive here! At the very least they will be curious so ride the wave and make the best of it.... |
I've known a few friends who have worked in various parts of Asia and they all ended up dating other teachers/ US Army guys in Korea as they didn't find the Asian guys attractive. Now there are probably those who hold a different view but I think they are in the minority so any lady who wants to date a Korean guy shouldn't have much competition from other Western girls for the curious Korean men. |
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Tarztastic
Joined: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Ruby Thursday wrote: |
sirius black wrote: |
Disagree respectfully. Men are men. Men like variety. Korea is not only homogeneous it puts western culture an english on a pedestal. Korean men make physical exceptions for western women because they are curious. |
They don't just make exceptions, they fetishise it.
I have never had a Korean male friend who didn't mention a desire to nail a "white horse" (their term for western chicks).
The problem is when it happens, the girls are often sadly sadly disappointed -- based on testimonials from various "white horse" friends of mine. Some have used the term "laughably bad" to describe the experience. |
Ill prob get slammed for this but here goes. I have once "gone there" and it was laughable. Seriously.. the reason we are not interested in Asian's is because we know what is normal/worth it, at home. I have decided its pretty much accepted when I get there I will become re-virginised. Ill be a girl that has standards too high and wont be dropping them. I'm there for reasons other than dating Koreans or left over expats. I wont count it out though... that would just be silly. |
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rainism
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Tarztastic wrote: |
Ruby Thursday wrote: |
sirius black wrote: |
Disagree respectfully. Men are men. Men like variety. Korea is not only homogeneous it puts western culture an english on a pedestal. Korean men make physical exceptions for western women because they are curious. |
They don't just make exceptions, they fetishise it.
I have never had a Korean male friend who didn't mention a desire to nail a "white horse" (their term for western chicks).
The problem is when it happens, the girls are often sadly sadly disappointed -- based on testimonials from various "white horse" friends of mine. Some have used the term "laughably bad" to describe the experience. |
Ill prob get slammed for this but here goes. I have once "gone there" and it was laughable. Seriously.. the reason we are not interested in Asian's is because we know what is normal/worth it, at home. I have decided its pretty much accepted when I get there I will become re-virginised. Ill be a girl that has standards too high and wont be dropping them. I'm there for reasons other than dating Koreans or left over expats. I wont count it out though... that would just be silly. |
you're being coy. laughable in what way?
lack of tact, lack of skill, technique, what have you?
"cultural" differences?
can't really blame them. They won't learn anything at the local massage parlor as it's all about the quickest ending possible (his). Not sure all the porn they watch and download helps either. it's probably not of the Nina Hartley 'romance' variety  |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010 Location: kOREA
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Tarztastic wrote: |
Ruby Thursday wrote: |
sirius black wrote: |
Disagree respectfully. Men are men. Men like variety. Korea is not only homogeneous it puts western culture an english on a pedestal. Korean men make physical exceptions for western women because they are curious. |
They don't just make exceptions, they fetishise it.
I have never had a Korean male friend who didn't mention a desire to nail a "white horse" (their term for western chicks).
The problem is when it happens, the girls are often sadly sadly disappointed -- based on testimonials from various "white horse" friends of mine. Some have used the term "laughably bad" to describe the experience. |
Ill prob get slammed for this but here goes. I have once "gone there" and it was laughable. Seriously.. the reason we are not interested in Asian's is because we know what is normal/worth it, at home. I have decided its pretty much accepted when I get there I will become re-virginised. Ill be a girl that has standards too high and wont be dropping them. I'm there for reasons other than dating Koreans or left over expats. I wont count it out though... that would just be silly. |
It's about the right crowd. |
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Okibum

Joined: 28 Jul 2006
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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the_curious wrote: |
Most of the women I know who have married Korean guys here are in unconventional relationships, with the wife being the primary breadwinner. The husbands, while not necessarily uneducated, lack steady jobs or other characteristics that would make them choice prizes in the eyes of the general populace. However, there are always exceptions to the rule. Like some of the other posters have said, the more you bring to the table, the better you will do.
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At first, I was almost offended with this comment, but then I thought, I would love to be the primary breadwinner in my relationship. I don't like how much my husband works. I knew what I was getting into when I married him but I can see why foreign women/Korean men would be in these unconventional relationships. |
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the_curious
Joined: 04 Oct 2010
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Okibum wrote: |
the_curious wrote: |
Most of the women I know who have married Korean guys here are in unconventional relationships, with the wife being the primary breadwinner. The husbands, while not necessarily uneducated, lack steady jobs or other characteristics that would make them choice prizes in the eyes of the general populace. However, there are always exceptions to the rule. Like some of the other posters have said, the more you bring to the table, the better you will do.
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At first, I was almost offended with this comment, but then I thought, I would love to be the primary breadwinner in my relationship. I don't like how much my husband works. I knew what I was getting into when I married him but I can see why foreign women/Korean men would be in these unconventional relationships. |
I didn't say it was bad... just unconventional. Especially in Korea . That being said, if forced to choose I too would rather be the only working spouse than the spouse that has to stay home and take care of the housework. Boring. |
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