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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
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| I thought the club you are talking about was the Pink Button (not hole) |
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politica
Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Location: Suwon-si
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Pink button closed up shop over a year ago- the owners moved just down the street into a bigger space and reopened as Pink Hole. |
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Ribena
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
Location: UK
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:26 am Post subject: |
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I've read that there appears to be a new Korean version of the L Word but on the other hand I have also read that some has said it was a "crime against humanity". So a bit of a mixed bag then!  Sorry I know such comments aren't funny but I guess I need a little humour after watching the news all day and seeing what is happening all over the UK> |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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new KBS drama called �Daughters of Club Bilitis� had viewers up in arms over the fact that it contained content relating to same-sex couples.
On August 7th, the drama premiered as Korea�s first ever lesbian one-act drama, illustrating the lives of three lesbian couples. The drama aimed to depict lesbian relationships across all generations, and thus tells the story of 50-year-olds Choi Ran and Choi Hyang Ja, 30-year-old career women Han Go Eun and Oh Se Jung, and high school students Jin Se Yeon and Ahn Ji Hyun.
The controversy began to brew when the drama was first picked up by KBS. Although it was confirmed for a midnight time slot, many were opposed to the idea of KBS even airing a lesbian-themed drama. In response, KBS rated the drama for 19 year olds and up.
Critics praised the drama for having �taken a detailed look into the lives of the LGBT [Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender] community and for accurately depicting their pain and obstacles.�
Some viewers, however, were skeptical. Even before the drama aired, netizens flooded the drama�s message board with posts strongly opposing its broadcast.
As of August 8th, comments like, �KBS needs to wake up from this illusion�, �This will negatively influence the youth�, and �This drama is a crime against humanity�, remain on the board.
Fortunately, other viewers have taken to their social networking services to defend the drama by praising, �The acting, directing, and script were all of high quality�, and �This is a brave attempt.�
A representative of the broadcasting industry said, �There are LGBT persons around us. Just because a drama is LGBT-themed does not mean that it�s meant to purposely be stimulating, yet people still view it through those lenses. Because KBS is a public broadcasting network, there remains obstacles on airing dramas of such content. Still, we hope that people will view the drama for what it is: a drama.� |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE9TznkuNoo |
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kimdeal54
Joined: 28 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:53 am Post subject: |
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new KBS drama called �Daughters of Club Bilitis� had viewers up in arms over the fact that it contained content relating to same-sex couples.
On August 7th, the drama premiered as Korea�s first ever lesbian one-act drama, illustrating the lives of three lesbian couples. The drama aimed to depict lesbian relationships across all generations, and thus tells the story of 50-year-olds Choi Ran and Choi Hyang Ja, 30-year-old career women Han Go Eun and Oh Se Jung, and high school students Jin Se Yeon and Ahn Ji Hyun.
The controversy began to brew when the drama was first picked up by KBS. Although it was confirmed for a midnight time slot, many were opposed to the idea of KBS even airing a lesbian-themed drama. In response, KBS rated the drama for 19 year olds and up.
Critics praised the drama for having �taken a detailed look into the lives of the LGBT [Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender] community and for accurately depicting their pain and obstacles.�
Some viewers, however, were skeptical. Even before the drama aired, netizens flooded the drama�s message board with posts strongly opposing its broadcast.
As of August 8th, comments like, �KBS needs to wake up from this illusion�, �This will negatively influence the youth�, and �This drama is a crime against humanity�, remain on the board.
Fortunately, other viewers have taken to their social networking services to defend the drama by praising, �The acting, directing, and script were all of high quality�, and �This is a brave attempt.�
A representative of the broadcasting industry said, �There are LGBT persons around us. Just because a drama is LGBT-themed does not mean that it�s meant to purposely be stimulating, yet people still view it through those lenses. Because KBS is a public broadcasting network, there remains obstacles on airing dramas of such content. Still, we hope that people will view the drama for what it is: a drama.� |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE9TznkuNoo |
Incredible. I'm amazed that they made this.
Just found it, and am watching it right now. So far, the production does look pretty good. |
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Ribena
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
Location: UK
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
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new KBS drama called �Daughters of Club Bilitis� had viewers up in arms over the fact that it contained content relating to same-sex couples.
On August 7th, the drama premiered as Korea�s first ever lesbian one-act drama, illustrating the lives of three lesbian couples. The drama aimed to depict lesbian relationships across all generations, and thus tells the story of 50-year-olds Choi Ran and Choi Hyang Ja, 30-year-old career women Han Go Eun and Oh Se Jung, and high school students Jin Se Yeon and Ahn Ji Hyun.
The controversy began to brew when the drama was first picked up by KBS. Although it was confirmed for a midnight time slot, many were opposed to the idea of KBS even airing a lesbian-themed drama. In response, KBS rated the drama for 19 year olds and up.
Critics praised the drama for having �taken a detailed look into the lives of the LGBT [Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender] community and for accurately depicting their pain and obstacles.�
Some viewers, however, were skeptical. Even before the drama aired, netizens flooded the drama�s message board with posts strongly opposing its broadcast.
As of August 8th, comments like, �KBS needs to wake up from this illusion�, �This will negatively influence the youth�, and �This drama is a crime against humanity�, remain on the board.
Fortunately, other viewers have taken to their social networking services to defend the drama by praising, �The acting, directing, and script were all of high quality�, and �This is a brave attempt.�
A representative of the broadcasting industry said, �There are LGBT persons around us. Just because a drama is LGBT-themed does not mean that it�s meant to purposely be stimulating, yet people still view it through those lenses. Because KBS is a public broadcasting network, there remains obstacles on airing dramas of such content. Still, we hope that people will view the drama for what it is: a drama.� |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE9TznkuNoo |
Incredible. I'm amazed that they made this.
Just found it, and am watching it right now. So far, the production does look pretty good. |
Do you understand Korean or are you watching it with subtitles? |
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Vox_Populi
Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| I LOVED L-WORD (I'm such a hagfag). Anyway, I'm SOOO praying that somebody goes wild and puts out some English subtitles FAST!!!!!!!!!! |
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Ribena
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
Location: UK
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| Vox_Populi wrote: |
| I LOVED L-WORD (I'm such a hagfag). Anyway, I'm SOOO praying that somebody goes wild and puts out some English subtitles FAST!!!!!!!!!! |
Lesbians are crazy obsessive about tv shows, so I'm sure someone will. Considering everything non-English and vaguely lesbians has been translated and posted on youtube it will probably happen. |
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kimdeal54
Joined: 28 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Incredible. I'm amazed that they made this.
Just found it, and am watching it right now. So far, the production does look pretty good. |
Do you understand Korean or are you watching it with subtitles? |
I can understand enough Korean to watch it. Someone's working on subtitles right now... they should be available soon.
The show itself was ok... no L Word or anything, but groundbreaking for Korea. There are three very famous actresses in it, which is great for high profile reasons, and most importantly it portrays lesbians in a positive light. Apparently people complained about it so much that KBS decided not to go ahead with repeat airings. It's ironic; the bigger a fuss all those 'concerned parents' make, the more they will guarantee that people will watch it. It seems negative, but Korea needs this kind of controversy in order to move forward. |
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Ribena
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
Location: UK
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Incredible. I'm amazed that they made this.
Just found it, and am watching it right now. So far, the production does look pretty good. |
Do you understand Korean or are you watching it with subtitles? |
I can understand enough Korean to watch it. Someone's working on subtitles right now... they should be available soon.
The show itself was ok... no L Word or anything, but groundbreaking for Korea. There are three very famous actresses in it, which is great for high profile reasons, and most importantly it portrays lesbians in a positive light. Apparently people complained about it so much that KBS decided not to go ahead with repeat airings. It's ironic; the bigger a fuss all those 'concerned parents' make, the more they will guarantee that people will watch it. It seems negative, but Korea needs this kind of controversy in order to move forward. |
Well in the days of Youtube its not going to stop people watching it. I remember when showed the kiss between Beth and Maggie was show on British soap Brookside and there was an uproar about it. That just increased the amount of people who wanted to watch it. Every memorable/shocking moments etc on tv features the kiss now.
Although I'm glad I was born in the UK and not a number of other countries. |
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Ribena
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
Location: UK
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| i watched the subtitled version of the show. It was interesting but kinda depressing. I`m not one to go around talking about my private life certainly not a work but having to be closeted to your parents etc must be tough. I thought that the plot with the pregnant girl was a bit of a cliche but her girlfriend was hot. The storyline with the older couple was sad and touching. Also was the assistant supposed to be that camp or was he portrayed as typical Korean guy? |
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Vox_Populi
Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Ribena wrote: |
| i watched the subtitled version of the show. It was interesting but kinda depressing. I`m not one to go around talking about my private life certainly not a work but having to be closeted to your parents etc must be tough. I thought that the plot with the pregnant girl was a bit of a cliche but her girlfriend was hot. The storyline with the older couple was sad and touching. Also was the assistant supposed to be that camp or was he portrayed as typical Korean guy? |
Did you find the subtitled version on youtube or somewhere else? I'd really appreciate it if you could post the url. You can pm me or just post here.
THANX!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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ovid
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Ribena
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
Location: UK
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:12 am Post subject: |
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I thought it was a one-off drama anyway. Regardless, I would think this misery would influence kids to stay closeted rather than the opposite. It certainly didn't make being gay seem glamorous and fun, its no The L Word for sure. |
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Ribena
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
Location: UK
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:42 am Post subject: |
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@Ribena
There are loads of lesbians in Seoul, myself included. There's a solid foreigner group called Sappho. Attending one of their events is a good way to meet people, although admittedly the foreigner lesbian circle in Seoul can get a little incestuous . . .
If you speak/read Korean, you can have a look at www.tgnet.co.kr, which is where all the Korean lesbians are. Also, I've found that at a lot of the lesbian clubs, you can meet Korean girls who speak pretty good English and are curious about seeing a foreign girl.
Right now there are 4 main lesbian bars/clubs in Hongdae (basically the nightlife mecca of Seoul):
Pink Hole (I know, the name)- a short walk from Hapjeong station, good dance floor, packed and sweaty on the weekend
Labrys- younger crowd (mostly college students), decent dance floor but you have to buy food if you want to sit down, near the park above Uniqlo
MaNyeo- Also near the park just around the corner from Labrys, lounge-y feel
The Owl Bus- Across the street from the park on the same side at the university gate, lounge-y feel, lesbian-owned but not exclusive, good place for wine  |
Recently, I read that alot of the "ladies" that you might meet in such venues have boyfriends and husband already(fake or otherwise). Is this right? |
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