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RUPERT MURDOCH'S REAL CRIME
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Chokse



Joined: 22 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You used the global warming issue to illustrate the evils of Murdoch and Fox. Fair enough, but in doing so you opened the issue to debate. If you don't want people discussing it, then don't bring it up.

Second, I made a post specifically about Murdoch and your issue with rich people you don't agree with, but I guess you missed it.

Seems that Hindsight (Ass-sight?) is the one that can't read, and he didn't even have to follow any links.

Tell you what. I'll post the comment again so you can read it, OK?

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Now, about Murdoch. Hate him if you want. Hate anyone if you want. Boycott whatever you want, but don't get all pissy when other people don't agree with your agenda or don't give a crap about it.

I will keep living my life exactly the way I have been living it, and if some of my money goes to Murdoch, so what? Plenty of my money goes to far worse people on a regular basis.

If you plan to avoid giving your money to anyone who is less than honorable, then you're not going to be able to spend your money anywhere. If you'd like, I can send you a bank account number and you can deposit your monthly pay directly to me... seeing as you can't spend it anywhere without helping some rich guy somewhere who is screwing anyone he can.

Do you not realize how many bad people there are out there in the world, doing exactly the kinds of things Murdoch does? What's your big plan for them? I'm all ears. Wake up to the reality of the world.


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So, I ask again. You seem to have the Murdoch bug up your ass, but what about all the other rich, powerful people who are exactly like him? What are you going to do about them. Are you planning to boycott all of them? If not, you're nothing but a poser with an agenda.
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Hindsight



Joined: 02 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chokse wrote:
You used the global warming issue to illustrate the evils of Murdoch and Fox. Fair enough, but in doing so you opened the issue to debate. If you don't want people discussing it, then don't bring it up.

Second, I made a post specifically about Murdoch and your issue with rich people you don't agree with, but I guess you missed it.

Seems that Hindsight (Ass-sight?) is the one that can't read, and he didn't even have to follow any links.

Tell you what. I'll post the comment again so you can read it, OK?

________________________________

Now, about Murdoch. Hate him if you want. Hate anyone if you want. Boycott whatever you want, but don't get all pissy when other people don't agree with your agenda or don't give a crap about it.

I will keep living my life exactly the way I have been living it, and if some of my money goes to Murdoch, so what? Plenty of my money goes to far worse people on a regular basis.

If you plan to avoid giving your money to anyone who is less than honorable, then you're not going to be able to spend your money anywhere. If you'd like, I can send you a bank account number and you can deposit your monthly pay directly to me... seeing as you can't spend it anywhere without helping some rich guy somewhere who is screwing anyone he can.

Do you not realize how many bad people there are out there in the world, doing exactly the kinds of things Murdoch does? What's your big plan for them? I'm all ears. Wake up to the reality of the world.


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So, I ask again. You seem to have the Murdoch bug up your ass, but what about all the other rich, powerful people who are exactly like him? What are you going to do about them. Are you planning to boycott all of them? If not, you're nothing but a poser with an agenda.





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Finally, while I didn't click on the links I did read the quotes (Sorry, I don't click on links unless they are from trusted sources, and I don't know you from Adam).


In other words, you don't click on links that you might not agree with.


For those of you who aren't spineless cowards, here's an unusually interesting discussion on NPR:

http://www.npr.org/2011/07/25/138601271/weather-warnings-for-a-climate-changed-planet

Climatologist Heidi Cullen is the author of the book "The Weather of the Future: Heat Waves, Extreme Storms, and other Scenes from a Climate Changed Planet."

And as you may have heard, NOAA has issued new weather normals, which are weather averages based on the data from the past 30 years.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=711&q=new+climate+normals+noaa&oq=new+climate+normals+noaa&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=6627l11725l0l12180l28l15l0l0l0l0l802l802l6-1l1l0
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Chokse



Joined: 22 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, are you afraid to answer the question, or just unable to answer it?

Either way, you've proven my point. You've got a vendetta against a single individual, rather than a cause about a larger issue.
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Hindsight



Joined: 02 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chokse wrote:
So, are you afraid to answer the question, or just unable to answer it?

Either way, you've proven my point. You've got a vendetta against a single individual, rather than a cause about a larger issue.



Chokse, if you bother to actually read my posts before going off on another rant, you will find that I have taken the time to answer many of your questions in detail. Have you responded to any of them in any way? Heck no. You just raise more irrelevant questions and demand that I answer them.

Well, Chokse, I asked you a simple question, and you ignored it. I will try again, this time more explicitly.

Cokse, are you now, or have you ever been, associated with Rev. Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church?

Did the Unification Church bring you to Korea? Is that why you moved here in 1996? Did the Unification Church arrange your marriage?

Or, perhaps, would you be ashamed to admit your connection?

I can't understand why anyone would be. After all, Rev. Dr. Sun Myung Moon and Dr. Hak Ja Moon are the "True Parents, Messiah & Lord of the Second Advent."


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Here you are invited to discover why Rev. Dr. Sun Myung Moon was chosen by God and called by Jesus Christ to fulfill the mission of the Messiah, Savior and Lord of the Second Advent with the responsibility to establish the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth. Together with his loving wife, Mrs. Hak Ja Moon, they are the True Parents of Heaven, Earth and all humanity who embody the true love of God.


http://www.trueloveking.net/

Mr. Moon is also the publisher of the ultra-conservative Washington Times newspaper, which happens to nicely complement the views of Rupert Murdoch's Fox News.

Of course, some people do not view the financial machinations of Rev. Moon so kindly:

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Covertly, Moon helped bail out Liberty University through one of his front groups which funnelled $3.5 million to the Reber-Thomas Christian Heritage Foundation, the non-profit that had purchased the school's debt.

I discovered this Moon-Falwell connection while looking for something else: how much Moon's Women's Federation for World Peace had paid former President George Bush for a series of speeches in Asia in 1995. I obtained the federation's Internal Revenue Service records but discovered that Bush's undisclosed speaking fee was buried in a line item of $13.6 million for conference expenses.

There was, however, a listing for a $3.5 million "educational" grant to the Christian Heritage Foundation. A call to the Virginia corporate records office confirmed that the foundation was the one run by Reber and Thomas.


http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon3.html

"Rev." Moon is a crook, a cheat and a liar who went to jail for tax fraud in 1982. Yet he has the sanctimonious nerve to call America "Satan's harvest."

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon.html

I don't know whether you are a "Moonie," Chokse. Perhaps you will tell us?

But I have long suspected there have been Moonies frequenting this board espousing extreme conservatism, pro-Korean and anti-American views. Posters should consider this when dealing with these irrational characters. Of course, some could simply be crazy.

Have a nice day.
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Chokse



Joined: 22 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. It took you almost a week to gather your thoughts enough to come up with this? Pathetic!

I don't believe in any organized religion, nor am I a member of one. I have not been inside a church or any other place of worship in over 25 years. Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not part of any silly religion, especially a Korean one (talk about nuts in the nuthouse!). And unlike the Moonies, I really don't care much for the majority of Koreans.

Now that I have answered your asinine question about my religious affiliation (or, as it turns out, lack there of), perhaps you can answer the now 9-day-old question of why you are ONLY targeting Murdoch. I have been clear that I don't particularly like the guy (I guess you were too daft to pick that sentence up in one of my previous posts), but I also said that HE IS ONLY ONE OF THOUSANDS out there who are lying and cheating their way to the top. You mention the Rev. Moon but don't suggest people boycott his businesses the way you strongly suggest people avoid Murdoch's businesses. I guess I have to give you a bit of credit for at least coming up with a single name in 9 days of searching, but I'm afraid that's not good enough, as the person you chose doesn't really rank up there with the likes of Murdoch. In fact, I think pairing the Rev. Moon with Murdoch is a bit of an insult to Murdoch.

So, let's go back to the question that has stumped you for over a week. Why are you only concerned with Murdoch? Why are you not criticizing the companies owned by other rich, powerful people- companies that do equally immoral and dangerous things, and the owners themselves. Hell, we can even find many of them here in Korea.

Am I going to have to wait another week for you to pull an "Assinine" answer out of your buttocks, Mr. Sight?
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Fat_Elvis



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: In the ghetto

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Rupert Murdoch's behaviour goes above and beyond the usual level of anti-social and manipulative behaviour displayed by the rich and powerful. He has tried and often been successful in manipulating politics in Anglo-Saxon countries for years now, and actively edits the news in his own organisations for his own benefit - Keith Olbermann's recent revelations about why he was fired from the Fox sports channel is a good example of this. Also, the recent phone hacking scandal is a great example of the depths which the Murdoch media will plummet to in order to move units.
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Chokse



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like Nixon. So, my question remains, "Is he the only one?"
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hindsight wrote:
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As to Julius' post, this cold period in the 1600s is not a good gauge of global temperature trends. This was a world-wide phenomenon due to a period of unusually low sunspot activity. .



So it was the sun that was/is the main driver in climate change.

Which is pretty much what the AGW "deniers" have been saying all along.

Welcome to the winning side.
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Carbon



Joined: 28 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You got passion, Hindsight...I'll give you that. A lot of off-topic banter in this thread despite your caustic efforts to keep it tight. It's contentious...people can't help themselves, as usual.

And what with me being a people, let me add some flavor to one pot and stir another.

On topic: Fox is the perpetrator of outright lies and sensationalism at best and one of the more egregious criminals, selling propaganda as journalism. Murdoch is a soulless sack of filth. One of many. Not the top of my 'if-I-were-invisible-who-would-I-pee-on' list, but a full bladder and a quick mention...

Off-topic: Global warming is a sham. Follow the money kids....one of the greater swindles of a generation.

Global warming is happening, but not for the reasons we are being sold. Bear in mind that man-made global warming is only a theory, where real scientific evidence points elsewhere. Read some Richard Lindzen. The more firmly one believes in this story, the more victimized by Murdoch and the ugly iceberg below him you are.

The latest few generations are growing up in a completely fabricated world that simply does not reflect reality, with global warming reasoning being illustrative. Young people are so distracted; I always smile thinking of the 19 year-old, buying some 'cool', 'gotta-have' item, as decided by a room full of old men.

What I am waiting for are the correlates between tree-hugging gullibility and Apple loyalty.

I digress.
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Sergio Stefanuto



Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fat_Elvis wrote:
Keith Olbermann's recent revelations about why he was fired from the Fox sports channel is a good example of this.


A Komment Macht Frei reader, I see?

Well, say what you like about the moral transgressions of phone-hacking and News Corp, but at least they aren't pulsating with incessant anti-semitic bigotry.

Mindless celebrity gossip is what the plebeian philistines want to read, as evidenced by the fact that the Sun is Broken Britain's biggest selling newspaper, whilst the "No Dogs, No Israelis" Grauniad is all but sure to go out of business within a few short years. Where Rubert Murdoch's media gratifies the interests of millions, the Graun is merely a soapbox for disgruntled, mediocre rabble-rousers who bleat incessantly about the inequities of life, using their cheap, China-made laptops in their Kensington townhouses. (Yes, really sticking it to the Man there!) Clearly, those whose phones were hacked must suck it up, in the interests of the Common Good!
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Fat_Elvis



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sergio Stefanuto wrote:
Fat_Elvis wrote:
Keith Olbermann's recent revelations about why he was fired from the Fox sports channel is a good example of this.


A Komment Macht Frei reader, I see?

Well, say what you like about the moral transgressions of phone-hacking and News Corp,


A nice way of glossing over a criminal investigation

Sergio Stefanuto wrote:
but at least they aren't pulsating with incessant anti-semitic bigotry.


Despite what the pro-Israel lobby would have you believe, opposition to Israeli aggression doesn't not equal anti-semitism. It appears us liberals aren't the only ones playing the race card to shut down opposing arguments ; )

Sergio Stefanuto wrote:
Mindless celebrity gossip is what the plebeian philistines want to read, as evidenced by the fact that the Sun is Broken Britain's biggest selling newspaper, whilst the "No Dogs, No Israelis" Grauniad is all but sure to go out of business within a few short years. Where Rubert Murdoch's media gratifies the interests of millions, the Graun is merely a soapbox for disgruntled, mediocre rabble-rousers who bleat incessantly about the inequities of life, using their cheap, China-made laptops in their Kensington townhouses. (Yes, really sticking it to the Man there!) Clearly, those whose phones were hacked must suck it up, in the interests of the Common Good!


Ah, Sergio, what would this board be like without your quasi Nietzschean diatribes against the "rabble"? Certainly a less entertaining place. I'm not even sure what you're saying in that last sentence.
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Sergio Stefanuto



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fat_Elvis wrote:
Despite what the pro-Israel lobby would have you believe, opposition to Israeli aggression doesn't not equal anti-semitism. It appears us liberals aren't the only ones playing the race card to shut down opposing arguments ; )


I can all but guarantee that not a single blog post on my beloved CIFwatch equates criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism.

Ardent Graun-readers are always incredulous that the World's Leading Liberal Voice could become a depraved, repugnant soapbox for anti-Semitic fanaticism. But the evidence is all there that it can and has. Read it and weap into your organic fruit-flavored tea.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fat_Elvis wrote:
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Despite what the pro-Israel lobby would have you believe, opposition to Israeli aggression doesn't not equal anti-semitism. .



While this is true, it is also true that Anti-Semites do join hands with the rest of the liberals in condemning "Israeli aggression". Politics makes strange bedfellows.

And it would seem that they have hijacked the leadership of this topic as they have so many other topics about Israel. Case in point see the CF article.
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