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pucciniphile
Joined: 23 Jun 2011
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Have any of you ever respectfully disagreed with anyone on another thread?
If so, then please give me a link.
I'd like to see it. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Now, I adore children, but I'm not in the mood to have my eardrums violated for a 7-hour flight, or even a 3-hour one.
With the exception of flying between NY and Incheon or back, I always flew business because I didn't want to have to listen to crying babies. NY to Asia just costs far too much for a higher-class seat. It stinks, because whenever I visit home I have to listen to squealing kids. My first flight over, I sat behind a little brother and sister. The parents allowed the little brats to squeal and whine for 15 hours. Even with earbuds in, I (and the entire cabin) was woken up repeatedly.
When I have kids, of course, I will fly economy because 1) I won't only be buying 1 or 2 tickets and the cost does add up and 2) children under 12 don't belong in the other seating areas. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| pucciniphile wrote: |
Have any of you ever respectfully disagreed with anyone on another thread?
If so, then please give me a link.
I'd like to see it. |
Yes. I've respectuflly disagreed with many so called "bashers" on this forum..
But it always seems in the middle of our arguments someone truly out of left field comes in and we realize that we aren't that so far apart.
Take for example me and Mr. Blackcat on the Youtube advertisement video. We have previously disagreed, yet neither of us thought the other insane. We get a thread where ppl out of left field chime in and we realize that push comes to shove, neither of us are nuts.
Same here.
It's like mainline Democrats and Republicans arguing and then some nutball comes in. Both sides realize that they have more in common than with that nutcase. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm all for it. Especially if it would have prevented the moronic couple from bringing their gurgling/screaming infant to a night time showing of Harry Potter a couple days ago. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Can see why the movement is spreading though...
Was just in a nice restaurant with family and a group comes in with screaming kids. We are across the restaurant and still can't carry on a conversation and all the other groups are clearly annoyed at the noise too. After ten minutes of a deafening screaming tantrum by one of the toddlers, the father carries her out over his shoulder. No joke, half the restaurant APPLAUDED.
I don't blame the kid really, but the dad should have handled the issue better. Instead, he escorts her back in again, and she is quieter but running around now. I hear him call to her: "Hey come here so we can discuss what kind of ice cream you are getting." Cool. Reward the tantrums and bad behavior. |
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isisaredead
Joined: 18 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| pucciniphile wrote: |
Have any of you ever respectfully disagreed with anyone on another thread?
If so, then please give me a link.
I'd like to see it. |
yes, quite often.
and no, i won't provide you with links. find them yourself. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:01 am Post subject: |
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| Mix1 wrote: |
Can see why the movement is spreading though...
Was just in a nice restaurant with family and a group comes in with screaming kids. We are across the restaurant and still can't carry on a conversation and all the other groups are clearly annoyed at the noise too. After ten minutes of a deafening screaming tantrum by one of the toddlers, the father carries her out over his shoulder. No joke, half the restaurant APPLAUDED.
I don't blame the kid really, but the dad should have handled the issue better. Instead, he escorts her back in again, and she is quieter but running around now. I hear him call to her: "Hey come here so we can discuss what kind of ice cream you are getting." Cool. Reward the tantrums and bad behavior. |
Yup. In almost every situation where you see an out of control kid.. there an asshat parent behind them (or somewhere around, possibly). |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Mix1 wrote: |
Can see why the movement is spreading though...
Was just in a nice restaurant with family and a group comes in with screaming kids. We are across the restaurant and still can't carry on a conversation and all the other groups are clearly annoyed at the noise too. After ten minutes of a deafening screaming tantrum by one of the toddlers, the father carries her out over his shoulder. No joke, half the restaurant APPLAUDED.
I don't blame the kid really, but the dad should have handled the issue better. Instead, he escorts her back in again, and she is quieter but running around now. I hear him call to her: "Hey come here so we can discuss what kind of ice cream you are getting." Cool. Reward the tantrums and bad behavior. |
Yup. In almost every situation where you see an out of control kid.. there an asshat parent behind them (or somewhere around, possibly). |
Yeah, and it got our table talking about what the heck is wrong with discipline these days in both the public realm and the school system. The older folk were mentioning how behavior like that was simply not ALLOWED when they were growing up. Whatever happened to limits? The pendulum has to swing back the other way or the kids end up ruling the roost and chaos ensues. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| On the other hand, if you pick the right restaurants at the right times in Korea, you will experience an almost zero chance of running into the kid screamers, but this is harder to deal with in the west. Korea wins this round for me. And if you're in a decent size Korean city, the list of good eateries just goes on and on. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Children are people too. They are citizens and have rights. Everyone of you cried when you were a baby.
Don't like it? Buy some earplugs. |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| Children are people too. They are citizens and have rights. |
Of course they have rights. We all have rights. The trick is learning how to exercise your rights without infringing on the rights of others. In theory it's simple.
| Stan Rogers wrote: |
Everyone of you cried when you were a baby.
Don't like it? Buy some earplugs. |
If I cried/screamed/made a disturbance in a public place, I was immediately removed from the area. That is what parents should do in those situations. Why should the rest of the restaurant customers, or movie-goers, be subjected to a child having a tantrum? That is an infringement of rights in my book. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| Children are people too. They are citizens and have rights. |
I guess I hadn't realized that continuously screaming at the top of your lungs in a restaurant to the detriment of everyone else present was a legal right. |
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rainism
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| tiger fancini wrote: |
| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| Children are people too. They are citizens and have rights. |
Of course they have rights. We all have rights. The trick is learning how to exercise your rights without infringing on the rights of others. In theory it's simple.
| Stan Rogers wrote: |
Everyone of you cried when you were a baby.
Don't like it? Buy some earplugs. |
If I cried/screamed/made a disturbance in a public place, I was immediately removed from the area. That is what parents should do in those situations. Why should the rest of the restaurant customers, or movie-goers, be subjected to a child having a tantrum? That is an infringement of rights in my book. |
i was removed from the area, and given a can of whoop ass upon returning home, sometimes even just outside. (this was before the belief that it took a "village" to raise a child)
apparently I was a very fast learner, as my mother tells me I was almost never a problem after my "lesson".  |
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