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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:55 am    Post subject: Do not try to compare salaries. Reply with quote

At present, the annual allowance for a legislator is set at 100.9 million won (roughly $87,000), or 8.41 million won ($7,262) per month. This includes various kinds of bonuses such as the one at year-end. Each legislator will be given some 2.50 million won for the monthly expenses needed to maintain his or her office in the Assembly, a deluxe car as well as telephone and mail fees. An additional 6 million won will also be provided per year for other purposes. In terms of manpower, a lawmaker can have up to six aides, including low-level secretaries, whose wages will also be paid from the state coffer. The salaries for a lawmaker's staffers can reach up to 252.9 million won ($218,454) a year. When a lawmaker goes on an official tour at home or abroad, he or she will also be given a travel allowance. There are a lot more cases, according to the laws, in which the Assemblymen could get financial support from the state. If all the financial costs are added up, the taxpayers' money funneled into a single lawmaker hovers over 400 million won ($345,423) on average per year.
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200404/kt2004041518090411960.htm

In pictures: Impeachment battle
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3504136.stm


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Homer
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does this have any relevance to teaching in Korea?
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool

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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
Do you receive a salary for your teaching in Korea? Do you receive any benefits in your teaching position? What kind of salary and benefits do you receive? While you may not receive the salary and benefits of a legislator, does your salary and benefits package fairly represent the importance of and demand for a professional educator?


it's called captalisim.

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A socio-economic system characterized by private initiative and the private ownership of factors of production. In such a system individuals have the right to own and use wealth to earn income and to sell and purchase labor for wages. Furthermore, capitalism is predicated on a relative absence of governmental control of the economy. The function of regulating the economy is achieved largely through the operation of market forces, whereby the price mechanism acts as a signalling system which determines the allocation of resources and their uses.


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dutchman



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality, I'd also be interested in knowing how my income compares to: a busdriver (in Korea, the USA and Bosnia), a dentist (just your ordinary dentist, not an orthodontist), the woman who cuts my hair, a CEO of a mid-sized corporation that specializes in the production of sidewalk bricks (please include the New Years and Chusok bonuses in the CEO's salary figures), Dave Sperling, the Kyungbi adjoshis in my apartment complex and a master sergeant in the Canadian military.

I eagerly await your reply.
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crazylemongirl



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dutchman wrote:
Real Reality, I'd also be interested in knowing how my income compares to: a busdriver (in Korea, the USA and Bosnia), a dentist (just your ordinary dentist, not an orthodontist), the woman who cuts my hair, a CEO of a mid-sized corporation that specializes in the production of sidewalk bricks (please include the New Years and Chusok bonuses in the CEO's salary figures), Dave Sperling, the Kyungbi adjoshis in my apartment complex and a master sergeant in the Canadian military.

I eagerly await your reply.


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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monthly Salary for a Korean Professor at a Korean (State) University
6,343,712 South Korea Won
(7,436 Australian Dollars; 7,375 Canadian Dollars; 8,624 New Zealand Dollars; 3,058 United Kingdom Pounds; 5,511 US Dollars)
http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/salaries/2000/popups/content/skor.html

Go to the Asiaweek site above and look at the chart.

Canada Salary Survey Results
Note: Salaries are presented in U.S. dollars.
http://www.scip.org/ci/salcan.asp


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dutchman



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
Monthly Salary for a Korean Professor at a Korean (State) University
6,343,712 South Korea Won
(7,436 Australian Dollars; 7,375 Canadian Dollars; 8,624 New Zealand Dollars; 3,058 United Kingdom Pounds; 5,511 US Dollars)
http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/salaries/2000/popups/content/skor.html

Go to the Asiaweek site above and look at the chart.


That's great. I'm glad to hear my Korean coworkers are doing so well.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality....

How does my salary compare to a professional athlete playing baseball in Japan?

That might be relevant...it might...yeah it might...
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PEIGUY



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dutchman wrote:
and a master sergeant in the Canadian military.

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there is no such thing as a Master Sargent in the Canadian Military, we have Master Warrant or Master Corporal that's it.. maybe your thinking American military, i am not really familiar with there rank structure.
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dutchman



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PEIGUY wrote:
dutchman wrote:
and a master sergeant in the Canadian military.

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there is no such thing as a Master Sargent in the Canadian Military, we have Master Warrant or Master Corporal that's it.. maybe your thinking American military, i am not really familiar with there rank structure.


I was actually going to add in parentheses 'if they have that' but figured some sensitive Canadian would think I was implying that Canada didnt have a military.

But good job getting the point of the post.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:00 am    Post subject: Re: How does your salary compare to a Korean legislator? Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
At present, the annual allowance for a legislator is set at 100.9 million won (roughly $87,000), or 8.41 million won ($7,262) per month. This includes various kinds of bonuses such as the one at year-end. Each legislator will be given some 2.50 million won for the monthly expenses needed to maintain his or her office in the Assembly, a deluxe car as well as telephone and mail fees. An additional 6 million won will also be provided per year for other purposes. In terms of manpower, a lawmaker can have up to six aides, including low-level secretaries, whose wages will also be paid from the state coffer. The salaries for a lawmaker's staffers can reach up to 252.9 million won ($218,454) a year. When a lawmaker goes on an official tour at home or abroad, he or she will also be given a travel allowance. There are a lot more cases, according to the laws, in which the Assemblymen could get financial support from the state. If all the financial costs are added up, the taxpayers' money funneled into a single lawmaker hovers over 400 million won ($345,423) on average per year.
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200404/kt2004041518090411960.htm

In pictures: Impeachment battle
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3504136.stm


Are you just dumb?

Comparing teaching to an elected postition?

Seriously.

Why don't you make a CONSTRUCTIVE post?

Comparing Korean legislator salaries to that of Canadian, it seems about EQUAL. Do they do equal work?

Are you messed in the head RR? You seem to think apples and oranges are the same thing.

Or are you just a TROLL?
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused

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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
Canada Salary Survey Results
Note: Salaries are presented in U.S. dollars. (Why?)
http://www.scip.org/ci/salcan.asp

crazylemongirl,
Does this fairly represent capitalism?
E-1 Visa (Professor)
In the case of a national or a public university, a foreigner is not permitted to be a full-time professor.
http://www.moj.go.kr/immi/08_english/02_business/e_1.html

Is this representative of capitalism?
from the EFL-Law-Guy: "Recently we have become aware of 5 cases of employees (teachers) who have worked for 4 or more years, with the same employer, NOT being renewed. (4 years, 2 x 7 years, 8 years, 13 years,). It has also become known the Ministry has sent a directive to schools, universities, etc, that teachers with Long service should not be re-employed. Those who have been told to date include University teachers, College teachers and some Epik teachers. It is a cynical attempt to prevent foreigners from getting tenure."
http://www.koreabridge.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3343


Again WHAT does this have to do with comparing a LEGISLATORS SALARY AND A TEACHERS SALARY?
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of salary and benefits do you receive? While you may not receive the salary and benefits of a legislator, does your salary and benefits package fairly represent the importance of and demand for a professional educator?

Do you think your salary and benefits should closer to a food service worker or closer to a legislator? If you teach in a university, should your salary and benefits be similar to a hagwon teacher or similar to a professor?


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