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joint
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 Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: Public Intoxication 1990 |
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| I was arrested for public intoxication in 1990.. I have no other trouble... will this prevent me from being able to teach in Korea? Im an American.... can I get this arrest expunged from my record and if so would this make me able to teach...? I will have a North Carolina teaching license at the end of the school year.. if I am able to teach where would be the best academic setting to buld upon my credentials or do I have to start at the bottom..... thanks for any help in this matter... |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Public Intoxication 1990 |
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| joint wrote: |
| I was arrested for public intoxication in 1990.. I have no other trouble... will this prevent me from being able to teach in Korea? Im an American.... can I get this arrest expunged from my record and if so would this make me able to teach...? I will have a North Carolina teaching license at the end of the school year.. if I am able to teach where would be the best academic setting to buld upon my credentials or do I have to start at the bottom..... thanks for any help in this matter... |
Is it actually ON your FBI background check or are you speculating that it may be? Get your check and know for sure. If it is there you won't work in Korea (or Taiwan) but there are lots of other destinations in Asia.
As a licensed teacher you should start looking at "international" and/or bilingual/immersion schools rather than teaching ESL/EFL in language academies or working as a teachers aid in a public school. The remuneration packages tend to be much better as so the work conditions.
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jrwhite82
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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You should need an FBi CBC for your teaching program when you start your student teaching experience. So you can learn if it is on there from that.
In the US all states are different in terms of expunging records and what they report to the FBI.
Korean immigration will accept an FBI CBC from the last 6 months. So you might be able to use the same one from your internship. But don't count on it because it will probably cut it close in terms of the time frame. |
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joint
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| it did come up on my teaching program but only because i voluntarily said that I had been arrested for that offense.. i went to the police station and had them write a letter saying that the fine was paid and that was it...the American program said it was no problem at all and I'm already enrolled.. i cant remember if I was fingerprinted for the arrest or not.. kind of sucks becuase i might have used working in Korea as a start to gaining experience for better paying jobs for the future... |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| joint wrote: |
| it did come up on my teaching program but only because i voluntarily said that I had been arrested for that offense.. i went to the police station and had them write a letter saying that the fine was paid and that was it...the American program said it was no problem at all and I'm already enrolled.. i cant remember if I was fingerprinted for the arrest or not.. kind of sucks becuase i might have used working in Korea as a start to gaining experience for better paying jobs for the future... |
So you have NEVER actually pulled your FBI check and you have no idea if it is there or not?
Do the check.
Then the answer to your question is simple.
If the check comes back "no report" then you are free to work in Korea (as a teacher (E7) or in ESL/EFL (E2)).
It also adds Taiwan as an option (they have a pretty good package - better than Korea) for teachers with home country certification).
If your CBC comes back with any finding then you will have to pick a new country since Korea and Taiwan will be off your list.
You can find jobs as a teacher (not just EFL) in China and Thailand among others with a simple "out of state" background check (where your indiscretion won't show).
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| If immigration was thinking straight, they'd view a public intoxication rap as a positive. Ability to acculturate, check. |
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DaHu
Joined: 09 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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paying the fine does not get it off your record
try China, lots of international schools there |
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brickabrack
Joined: 17 May 2010
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:43 am Post subject: |
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Had the same thing in '98 in Pennsy.
Didn't show up on CBC. Get the check.
Everything will work out. Good luck. |
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Gorf
Joined: 25 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| If anyone ever asks you if you've been arrested for something, you say "NO". Duh. If your FBI CBC says "NO ARREST RECORD" then mum's the word. |
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joint
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| Gorf wrote: |
| If anyone ever asks you if you've been arrested for something, you say "NO". Duh. If your FBI CBC says "NO ARREST RECORD" then mum's the word. |
I have learned that lying is not the way to go for me...at least in America.. we were told that if you lie on your application for your teaching program that you would get in more trouble if caught lying than if you just admit to what you had done in the past... believe me ..I wanted to not tell the truth but stepped out on faith that telling the truth would ge me further than lying and it has worked up to now....I will get the CBC done for my own sake now and to all the other posts I say thanks for the feedback |
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Gorf
Joined: 25 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| This isn't America. If you get caught there are 0 real-world consequences, but you won't if you just say nothing. It's not like they're doing in-depth background checks every week on every teacher to make sure they didn't lie on their applications. Sure, your pride might feel better, but in reality you have nothing tangible to gain and everything to lose (before it even starts) if you admit your faults. Korea doesn't work like that. If your record comes up clean, and you get asked about it and tell people that you have indeed been arrested in the past and it ruins your chances, then you don't deserve to work in Korea anyways. Admitting faults is career and social status killer #1. |
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joint
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Gorf wrote: |
| This isn't America. If you get caught there are 0 real-world consequences, but you won't if you just say nothing. It's not like they're doing in-depth background checks every week on every teacher to make sure they didn't lie on their applications. Sure, your pride might feel better, but in reality you have nothing tangible to gain and everything to lose (before it even starts) if you admit your faults. Korea doesn't work like that. If your record comes up clean, and you get asked about it and tell people that you have indeed been arrested in the past and it ruins your chances, then you don't deserve to work in Korea anyways. Admitting faults is career and social status killer #1. |
I was discussing my application for an American School..not about Korea...I have learned when and when not to keep my mouth shut for the most part... thanks Gorf for your feedback.. when it comes to deserving things... If I got what I deserved for my past..then I would probably be in jail as a lot of other people in the world may be |
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| If I got what I deserved for my past..then I would probably be in jail as a lot of other people in the world may be |
LOL... this certainly isn't America.
You'll find that after you leave the bible belt that most of the things you think are illegal are common Saturday entertainment in the rest of the world.
-things like sitting out in front of your local convenience store drinking your beer before you walk through the red-light district and look at the ladies in the window on your way to the clubs for an all-nighter of drinking and dancing before you catch the 5:30 subway for your ride home.
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joint
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="ttompatz"]
| joint wrote: |
| Gorf wrote: |
| If I got what I deserved for my past..then I would probably be in jail as a lot of other people in the world may be |
LOL... this certainly isn't America.
You'll find that after you leave the bible belt that most of the things you think are illegal are common Saturday entertainment in the rest of the world.
-things like sitting out in front of your local convenience store drinking your beer before you walk through the red-light district and look at the ladies in the window on your way to the clubs for an all-nighter of drinking and dancing before you catch the 5:30 subway for your ride home.
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I think that your opinion of how or what I view as illegal are a bit off in my case... I'm lucky to be alive.. I have seen three of my friends die within the last 7 years from drug addiction, depression or an indirect result from drug addiction...in my hometown you cant walk down certain streets without getting robbed or at least get your ass busted,,, you can get crack cocaine at any moment of the day so I'm not so worried about what happens elsewhere in the world as being the eye opener to soemthing I havent seen before .... Im not the naive hick that many people outside the Bible Belt tend to try and group us southern boys as... I've been overseas to Bangkok and Mexico and seen the stuff that happens there and remain unfazed... My comment on how we are lucky we dont get what we deserve was based upon how merciful I have been treated by others and my own family after a life long process of making the wrong decisions and still being in the position to have a future... have a great day |
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Gorf
Joined: 25 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| Tom, what's your guess? 12 step or narconon? |
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