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swinewho
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 Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:15 pm Post subject: Change of EPIK policy? |
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There seems to be a much larger percentage of brits and non American people in this year�s bunch of EPIK.
Maybe the people at EPIK have finally realised just how shoddy the yanks are!
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Kennyftw
Joined: 08 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| ha. how pathetic. If it weren't for the US, you'd still be in the UK or somewhere else rotting. America is WHY English is international language of commerce and why you have a job here. You should get on your knees and thank the "yanks." You are piggy backing on the accomplishments of the United States, so shut your trolling, pretentious mouth up and get in your place. |
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itistime
Joined: 23 Jul 2010
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While I'll admit I've met my fair share of shoddy yanks, I have to
agree with Kenny to an extent.
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This thread may go on for a decade, if the it's not first
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swinewho
Joined: 17 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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keep telling yourself that buddy if it makes you feel better!
I was just saying that from the list i've seen there seems to be a lot more non-US pp this year than in the past.
I'm guessing that since the US is such a 'wonderful place' for employment at the minute - the same, if not more pp have applied this year?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OOTe9oy7Pg&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=PLD5FC258FE480FF19
Maybe this can help you out ^ |
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shostahoosier
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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9.2% in the US vs. 7.9% in the UK. Not much to brag about in my opinion. |
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swinewho
Joined: 17 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| 9.2% in the US vs. 7.9% in the UK. Not much to brag about in my opinion. |
I didn't say it was! But America has a much larger population, so stats like that can be a bit misleading......
So back to the main question - are SK following NK lead and starting to teach 'real' English? |
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rainism
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| swinewho wrote: |
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| 9.2% in the US vs. 7.9% in the UK. Not much to brag about in my opinion. |
I didn't say it was! But America has a much larger population, so stats like that can be a bit misleading......
So back to the main question - are SK following NK lead and starting to teach 'real' English? |
no and here's why.
as noted thanks to America, English is the business of international commerce, but we're talking about American/Canadian English because since the fall of the British Empire and the East India Co. , there's not much English "commerce" to speak of.
since most people learn English not for the love of the language, but more practical reasons, Americans and Canadians are the people they will prefer to learn it from.
North Korea has no commerce, so they can regale themselves with the King James version
and learn silly and clumsy structures such as "England have played splendidly today."
and enjoy today's main British commercial and cultural export - white trash soccer hooliganism
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JD_Tiberius
Joined: 16 Nov 2009
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| swinewho wrote: |
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| 9.2% in the US vs. 7.9% in the UK. Not much to brag about in my opinion. |
I didn't say it was! But America has a much larger population, so stats like that can be a bit misleading......
So back to the main question - are SK following NK lead and starting to teach 'real' English? |
I'm British, but I feel the need to point out, that the only reason NK hires British teachers is because we are the only English speaking country that will have dealings with them. Thats not exactly something to be proud of....Old Britannia snuggling up to a kleptocratic totalitarian state |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Kennyftw wrote: |
| ha. how pathetic. If it weren't for the US, you'd still be in the UK or somewhere else rotting. America is WHY English is international language of commerce and why you have a job here. You should get on your knees and thank the "yanks." You are piggy backing on the accomplishments of the United States, so shut your trolling, pretentious mouth up and get in your place. |
53 countries in the commonwealth (the US is not among them).
ALL but 1 of them have English as an official language.
2.4 billion people in countries (not including the states) with English as an official language and with English as the primary language of (big) business the their judicial system.
300 million people in the states (1/3 of whom do not speak English as a primary language).
Linguistically, you won't find "Webster's" English in any place that was not directly tied to the US (like its dependencies).
Outside of pirated Hollywood movies the US not all that important (except perhaps in their own minds) as a driving force in the globalization of English.
If it hadn't been for the crash in the US economy, the majority of US refugees that we are seeing in Asia would be much lower (I don't know how many US lawyer's resumes I have had pass over my desk in the last year or so but the number was staggering). More Americans are trying to flee the states than there are Mexicans trying to get in.
America = the new Mexico.
AS to the "Why do we see fewer Americans in EPIK?" I can only make an educated guess that it is largely due to the difficulty that many were surprised with in obtaining their documents last spring (after the rules changed) and the subsequent delays in their applications. The number of applicants from the states has actually risen since then.
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Kennyftw
Joined: 08 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| Kennyftw wrote: |
| ha. how pathetic. If it weren't for the US, you'd still be in the UK or somewhere else rotting. America is WHY English is international language of commerce and why you have a job here. You should get on your knees and thank the "yanks." You are piggy backing on the accomplishments of the United States, so shut your trolling, pretentious mouth up and get in your place. |
53 countries in the commonwealth (the US is not among them).
ALL but 1 of them have English as an official language.
2.4 billion people in countries (not including the states) with English as an official language and with English as the primary language of (big) business the their judicial system.
300 million people in the states (1/3 of whom do not speak English as a primary language).
Linguistically, you won't find "Webster's" English in any place that was not directly tied to the US (like its dependencies).
Outside of pirated Hollywood movies the US not all that important (except perhaps in their own minds) as a driving force in the globalization of English.
If it hadn't been for the crash in the US economy, the majority of US refugees that we are seeing in Asia would be much lower (I don't know how many US lawyer's resumes I have had pass over my desk in the last year or so but the number was staggering). More Americans are trying to flee the states than there are Mexicans trying to get in.
America = the new Mexico.
AS to the "Why do we see fewer Americans in EPIK?" I can only make an educated guess that it is largely due to the difficulty that many were surprised with in obtaining their documents last spring (after the rules changed) and the subsequent delays in their applications. The number of applicants from the states has actually risen since then.
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Still. The reason English is what it is today is not from anything the UK or Canada and the other countries did. It is 99% because of the economic control America had and the presense of the US in the world<---and I stress "had." It's not what it once was, but to refute the fact that the reason you are here working in Korea is because of what your country did is utterly false. Yes it sounds egotistical, but facts and facts. Everyone is piggy backing on America's once-great economic power. Not Canada's or the UK's power. Again, to disreagrd this, you would have to be living in another reality. Your made up reality. |
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Kennyftw
Joined: 08 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Kimchi Cha Cha
Joined: 15 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to deflate ya tyres Kenny but I'd say the British and their Empire had as much, if not more, to do with the prominence of English than the US. Sure, the US has been the dominant superpower of the past sixty years and has made great strides in strengthening the presence of English throughout the world.
But, they were given a very, very substantial leg-up by the economic, lingual, legal and cultural structures left over from the British. Why do you think Malaysians, Indians, Pakistanis use English as a standard for communication when doing business both within and within outside their countries? Hell, why do Australians, Canadians and Americans speak English in the first place?
The British provided the ladder and equipment for the Americans to walk on. |
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jamesd
Joined: 15 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Another unbelievable thread.  |
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jamesd
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Another unbelievable thread. |
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cincynate
Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: Jeju-do, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| As an American I agree that the Brittish laid the foundation for the spread of the English language. However, Brittian's reign was during a non globalized culture. There was little global commerce except for a few spices and what not. Most of the commerce was done between the terrirories the Brittish had conquored. Globalization was started by the US with their search for ever cheaper labor abroad. If the brittish had such a huge influence in international commerce, why is everything traded in Dollars and not pounds?? No matter how you put it, the Americans are responsible for the spread of English as the language of Business. BTW.. i think in 20 years, my children will be learning from their Native Chinese teacher!! |
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