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Is the strong Anti-Japan sentiment unique to Korea?
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Koreans tend to hate everyone who isn't pure-blood korean

Can you support this with evidence?
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-Japanese sentiment Reply with quote

eaglenovan wrote:
Koreans tend to hate everyone who isn't pure-blood korean - the obvious chosen people.
I think it's more like a case of envy really. Yes, I know, Japan did some rather awful things in the past, but most people seem to have gotten over it, except the Koreans predominantly.
If they could turn their angst towards making themselves better, and more worldly, it would do them a lot more good.


What a load of absolute bollox. There are several Asian countries which other posters have given evidence of, that are also very bitter about the Japanese. The Phillipines especially and parts of China.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
Dan wrote:
Um, I think you guys are mistaken.

Chinese, Taiwanese and Phillippinos still carry a huge grudge against Japan.

Especially the Phillippines were just hit so hard by Japanese occupation. They considered native Phillippinos to be less than human and treated them in the worst way.


Yes, Filipinos are very bitter about the cruelty of the Japanese occupiers. Actually a lot of British are too, former prisoners of war. It's not unique to Korea.

The difference with Europe and Germany is that Germany as a country has tried to understand and learn from this period in History, and become a better country as a result. I believe this is why Europe has largely forgiven Germany.

Hey thats a good point. Its interesting when I meet Germans and how ashamed of that part of their history they are.

Japanese on the other hand, seem to have huge gaps into what happened during those times. I´ve had a few Japanese question why the Americans dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Granted it was extremely excessive to drop two of them!! But on the other hand, they seem completely unaware of what their country was doing up until that moment.
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Japanese on the other hand, seem to have huge gaps into what happened during those times. I��ve had a few Japanese question why the Americans dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Granted it was extremely excessive to drop two of them!! But on the other hand, they seem completely unaware of what their country was doing up until that moment.


Yeah, its funny how anti-nuke types in the west have all these weepy ceremonies to commemorate Hiroshima a couple of days before Koreans party hard to celebrate Independence Day.
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komtengi



Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Lemon wrote:
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Koreans tend to hate everyone who isn't pure-blood korean

Can you support this with evidence?


then why is it that mixed children are so severley abused in Korea??

Yeah I know its not what he meant, but its one example. There is also a saying in Korean that goes something like you cant mix your blood. Meaning whatever your parents were you will become too
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Paji eh Wong



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is Asia. Nobody likes anybody. Hell, I don't think Korean's even like themselves.
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Mosley



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:57 am    Post subject: Dan, et al. Reply with quote

I can't really agree that outside China & the Koreas there is the same DEGREE of hatred towards Japan that you find in those three. In Taiwan, for example, there is a ready acceptance of Japanese pop culture and a grudging admission that Japan yanked the island into the 20th C. Moreover, in China & the two Koreas there has been a long concerted campaign fostered by GOVERNMENT(esp. via public education) to keep up the hate-on for Japan. It's also worth noting that in some countries(Indonesia, Burma, etc.) Japan's WWII victories against the West are seen to have paved the way for post-war independence. In some places, like Singapore, I get the impression that the attitude is "forgive but don't forget".
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gypsyfish



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't see any evidence of any antipathy when I lived in Taiwan (for 13 months). In fact, I read an article in one of the papers that quoted some of the WW II era Taiwanese as saying that they liked the Japanese, thought the Japanese did a lot to help the island, and preferred to speak Japanese to Mandarin Chinese.
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matthewwoodford



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask your parents' or grandparents' generation and you'll find a lot of hatred of Japan because of Pearl Harbor or their treatment of British PoWs or whatever. Also there used to be a lot of hatred in Continental countries toward Germans from those generations that remembered being occupied - probably not nowadays. I don't know any Brits old or young who hate Germans tho', probably cos they never treated Brit PoWs half so bad as Russians or others. Also Germans, unlike Japs, seem to have done everything possible to repudiate their past, as many have pointed out. On the other hand, I heard people in Eastern bloc countries complain about the arrogant attitude of East Germans on holiday, going about thinking they're the master race.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Germans are kind of modest and humbled by their past. But having been around Germans interacting with other Europeans or just any non-Germans.. they do get some flack at times from their past. Actually often.

Maybe thats whats makes them continuously so humbled around others as well though.. hard to say..
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peemil



Joined: 09 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My grandfather hated the Japanese. But he fought them. My dad hated the Vietnamese. But he fought them. Some of my uncles aren't too fond of the Chinese or Koreans. They fought them too. I know my Nan and Pop weren't too keen on Germans. But they lived through two world wars in England. Pop lost his father at the Somme and he fought them in round two, while Nan was in London for the Blitz.

I have no grudges though. That's their wars. Not mine. I try to tell Koreans this but they say something along the likes of... "But you must carry it on for them." No I don't. Their hatred bred by war. That's hard to break. Very hard to break.

I don't need to carry it on. I can remember but, when was the last time I was in the jungle waiting for charlie to come over the hill? Or fighting the Germans across Europe? Or giving it to the Japanese in the S. Pacific. Never.

Koreans don't compute this though.
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peemil



Joined: 09 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S. My uncles words before I left for Korea?

"Why do you want to go to that shit hole? They're dirty, smelly little fuckers. They smell like garlic and onion and that shit they eat... What's it called?"

Different time. Different place. Different situation. They still smell like Kimchi though... Smile
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Dan



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think crackers smell like armpits, and I wish I could smack crackers up and tell them "TAKE A GODDAMN SHOWER EVERY NOW AND THEN!"

But that's only in extreme cases of neglected hygiene.
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peemil



Joined: 09 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blah... Blah... Blah. Do I have to respond to that. I mean the point was... Oh to hell with it. Don't run around starting to call everyone a cracker. Christ. Fact is fact. Koreans do smell like kimchi and onion and garlic. But that's beside the point. You notice the little smiley face next to it... Very Happy This one... Or this one Laughing It's a laugh. A joke. People have them sometimes. When their not examine their own anuses. The point was the ideas that my Uncle just really hated Korea and Koreans at the end of it all. *beep* I'm too hungover...

Mind you... Where the bloody hell do you get off calling people a cracker? Like that... Maybe we should all start using words like, zipperhead, gook, nip huh? Jesus don't get me started on any other ones. It's a two way street my good man.
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