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sojusucks
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 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:15 am Post subject: Seoul hating foreign students this time |
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http://asiancorrespondent.com/author/nschwartzman/
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With foreign study-abroad students entering Seoul National University dormitories in large numbers, students from the provinces are complaining that they have no chance to liv in the dormitories.
On June 2nd over 1,500 students applied to enter the dormitory for the second semester, and they waited over two months. Although that may seem to have been a normal number in the past, it was beyond expectations. All 357 foreign students were able to secure rooms.
3-year old Kang, a senior from Jeju-do majoring in psychology, said that �students from the provicnes have family circumstances that are not as good as those of foreign students, so shouldn�t we get preferences?� |
The wait was normal in the past but now it is beyond expectation -- what exactly does this mean?
So Kang thinks foreigners have better situations. Is he equating Western = foreigner, which is not true in Korea as foreigners also include those from China, the Philippines, and other countries. |
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Jeju Rocks
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| Kang is only a 3 year old. Stop messing with him. |
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FMPJ
Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Jeju Rocks wrote: |
| Kang is only a 3 year old. Stop messing with him. |
Seriously. You can't judge a toddler by adult expectations. The fact that he's a university senior is just amazing. What a prodigy! |
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Chris.Quigley
Joined: 20 Apr 2009
Location: Belfast. N Ireland
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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All universities do this.
I am from British Columbia. Both of the main universities near Vancouver (UBC and SFU) do the same thing. Foreign students get preference for dorm rooms.
Why?
I think it may be because foreign students do not have a support network and English may be their second language... they simply don't have the necessary resources to go out and get a place by themselves when they first arrive.
The locals on the other hand are fully capable of finding a place on their own.
Compare this to the situation of ESL teachers. Quite honestly, when I first arrived in Korea I wouldn't have had a clue of where to begin looking for an apartment. Thankfully, the school provides one.
If they don't take care of the foreign exchange students when they first arrive... there wouldn't be any exchange students.
The number of exchange students/foreign students is a major consideration for university rankings. No one cares about how many countryside yokels you have at your school. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Chris.Quigley wrote: |
All universities do this.
I am from British Columbia. Both of the main universities near Vancouver (UBC and SFU) do the same thing. Foreign students get preference for dorm rooms.
Why?
I think it may be because foreign students do not have a support network and English may be their second language... they simply don't have the necessary resources to go out and get a place by themselves when they first arrive.
The locals on the other hand are fully capable of finding a place on their own.
Compare this to the situation of ESL teachers. Quite honestly, when I first arrived in Korea I wouldn't have had a clue of where to begin looking for an apartment. Thankfully, the school provides one.
If they don't take care of the foreign exchange students when they first arrive... there wouldn't be any exchange students.
The number of exchange students/foreign students is a major consideration for university rankings. No one cares about how many countryside yokels you have at your school. |
The bulk of their revenue still comes from these yokels. Maybe they should build more dorms and hire a couple more professors. The uni makes more money because of higher enrolment and students can still go there. Everyone is happy. Seems good to me. Oh, yeah, put up the fees for foriegn students if they haven't already. Just like in Canada. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Chris.Quigley wrote: |
All universities do this.
I am from British Columbia. Both of the main universities near Vancouver (UBC and SFU) do the same thing. Foreign students get preference for dorm rooms.
Why?
I think it may be because foreign students do not have a support network and English may be their second language... they simply don't have the necessary resources to go out and get a place by themselves when they first arrive.
The locals on the other hand are fully capable of finding a place on their own.
Compare this to the situation of ESL teachers. Quite honestly, when I first arrived in Korea I wouldn't have had a clue of where to begin looking for an apartment. Thankfully, the school provides one.
If they don't take care of the foreign exchange students when they first arrive... there wouldn't be any exchange students.
The number of exchange students/foreign students is a major consideration for university rankings. No one cares about how many countryside yokels you have at your school. |
The bulk of their revenue still comes from these yokels. Maybe they should build more dorms and hire a couple more professors. The uni makes more money because of higher enrolment and students can still go there. Everyone is happy. Seems good to me. Oh, yeah, put up the fees for foriegn students if they haven't already. Just like in Canada. |
Most universities are building new dorms as more Korean parents are allowing their children to live away from home during college. They are big money makers for the universities.
Fees for foreign students? It's my understanding that most of them are on scholarship. It's the only way the Korean universities can get enough foreign enrollment, which, as posted above, is what this is all about--rankings. And getting them to come to Korea includes providing housing.
I have no sympathy for the Korean student and his whining. If he's from such reduced circumstances, then a one-room will do just fine and be less expensive. (And no curfew as well.) If he doesn't like it, he's free to go to a university in his hometown. |
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UknowsI
Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
I have no sympathy for the Korean student and his whining. If he's from such reduced circumstances, then a one-room will do just fine and be less expensive. (And no curfew as well.) If he doesn't like it, he's free to go to a university in his hometown. |
Are these dorms more expensive than a one room? My uni's dorms are 70k a month, and I assumed that was the main reason why people chose to live in them. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Yonsei's dorms are 1,764,000 won for 10 weeks (these are the international dorms), meaning 176,400 per week, which would be 705,600 per month. Did you forget a zero? @@ |
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UknowsI
Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| Yonsei's dorms are 1,764,000 won for 10 weeks (these are the international dorms), meaning 176,400 per week, which would be 705,600 per month. Did you forget a zero? @@ |
Nope, I don't live in Seoul and I'm sure our dorms are subsidised by our uni, but 10 times mores was a lot. That's more than twice as much as I pay for my 36 m2 apartment. Our dorm rooms are something like 2 people in a 12 m2 room, Yonsei must have better quality dorms without room mates.
I just checked the pricing. The cheapest dorm rooms are 40,000 won a month, but the quality is pretty bad. The average dorm cost seems to be around 80,000 a month |
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