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Feloria
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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I have been back in the States since the 2nd week in April.
In the past 4 months, the government almost completely SHUT DOWN with only a few hours to spare. This happened in April. The Minnesota state government did shut down for two weeks.
Less than 2 weeks ago, America was in serious danger of actually DEFAULTING on it's debts, and as a result lost the world wide 'AAA' credit rating.
The unemployment rate here is the worst it has been in decades.
There are still things I love about being an American, but they are becoming fewer and fewer every day.
If you're an American who hasn't been back for awhile; let me tell you-things are changing, and not for the better. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Kennyftw wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
| Kennyftw wrote: |
| Oh well, by the time the baby grows up, America will be a third world country anyhow. I'm American, too btw. |
Are you kidding me?!
The United States is and will continue to be the richest country in the world. This will not change in our lifetime.
(China's per capita GDP is 4K a year, btw. Cuba's is 5K. The U.S.: 47K...S.K.: 20K) |
we're in DEBT up to our eyeballs. The government is reckless and will ruin the country financially (its already begun) soon. We aren't rich. |
Those collecting interest on the debt will be rich. And I don't mean China. |
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Jane
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| Privateer wrote: |
| Kennyftw wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
| Kennyftw wrote: |
| Oh well, by the time the baby grows up, America will be a third world country anyhow. I'm American, too btw. |
Are you kidding me?!
The United States is and will continue to be the richest country in the world. This will not change in our lifetime.
(China's per capita GDP is 4K a year, btw. Cuba's is 5K. The U.S.: 47K...S.K.: 20K) |
we're in DEBT up to our eyeballs. The government is reckless and will ruin the country financially (its already begun) soon. We aren't rich. |
Those collecting interest on the debt will be rich. And I don't mean China. |
True dat. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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| There are opportunities there and there will continue to be opportunities there for a long time to come. |
Right then. Why not go back and get one of these "opportunities"? |
Exactly.
I'm trying to encourage people who don't want to be here to leave.
There are so many on the board and on waygook.org who say the only thing keeping them in Korea is the job market in their home countries.
I think it's pretty sad that people feel trapped in a place they don't want to be for lack of better options.
It amazes me how many Dave's members lack the confidence to consider themselves employable in the West.
I've talked to recruiters working for agencies who were instructed to remind applicants about the bad economy. To me, it is despicable recruiters are using scaremongering.
These types of posts I make seem to anger more than a couple people on here, so let me explain how they are beneficial:
1) An overly cynical, despondent, and negative outlook towards the employment situation in English speaking Western countries will keep people here who would otherwise leave. It would be better for them to follow their dreams.
2) When people who don't want to be in Korea and/or don't want to be EFL teachers stay, it is not good for Korean society, and not fair for the students they teach. They deserve better.
3) When you scare people who don't want to be here into not going home, you are hurting yourself. Why? An oversupply of teachers means a stagnation and decline of wages and conditions.
For example, look at the public school system:
-Despite inflation, wages are not rising.
-Orientation used to be paid. Now it is unpaid.
-Summer and winter camps used to be paid. Now they are unpaid.
-Requirements for what constitutes a year's experience for the pay bump (now it is constricted by location) is more strict, leading to lower salaries.
Do you see what is happening?
Do you understand my point?
| thegadfly wrote: |
| He is trying to create greater job security and higher wages by reducing the supply of teachers here |
Correct.
And apologist posts achieve the opposite.
Great job, genius. |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:18 am Post subject: |
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| Jane wrote: |
| Privateer wrote: |
| Kennyftw wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
| Kennyftw wrote: |
| Oh well, by the time the baby grows up, America will be a third world country anyhow. I'm American, too btw. |
Are you kidding me?!
The United States is and will continue to be the richest country in the world. This will not change in our lifetime.
(China's per capita GDP is 4K a year, btw. Cuba's is 5K. The U.S.: 47K...S.K.: 20K) |
we're in DEBT up to our eyeballs. The government is reckless and will ruin the country financially (its already begun) soon. We aren't rich. |
Those collecting interest on the debt will be rich. And I don't mean China. |
True dat. |
Yep,
I used to abhor the Korean mentality of free-loading to get stuff. Pregnancy tourism etc. but really it's the policy makers that are hell-bent on allowing it so fair duce.
I'll be here as long as Koreans are let get away with stuff as they're pretty good at it and make the most of it, unlike most dumbed down people back home.
Of course, they will milk it to death rather than sustaining the milk flow,so when it all comes crashing down, they won't be any better off, maybe worse so.. but that won't be a surprise either. |
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earthquakez
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:37 am Post subject: |
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| Some of the friends I grew up with in Europe were also born in America. They had to chose which citizenship to keep before they turned 21. I don't think any of them chose American citizenship, but their parents wanted to give them the best opportunities and the option to chose. Seems like a sound decision from their parents point of view as it gives more options but hardly any disadvantages. |
The difference is however, that Koreans mostly hold to the uri nara concept and want foreigners here only on very limited visas for the most, go on about their culture and how it's superior to that of the US etc YET derive nearly everything that makes life here comfortable and part of the 21st century from our non Korean technology, development and other modes of progressive thinking and production.
The icing on the cake is the way in which many assume they have the right to enter and live in our countries, sometimes illegally, while wanting to deny the right to non Koreans to live and work legally in Korea or at least make a disproportionate fuss about foreigners who are mostly on very restricted visas living and working in Korea. Those kinds of Koreans need to know that if they want to be credible about their views then they need to stay home and not take advantage of the benefits of life in our countries. If they want to live elsewhere temporarily or permanently then they need to accept that non Koreans in some cases want to and will do the same in Korea. |
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cwflaneur
Joined: 04 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| earthquakez wrote: |
| UknowsI wrote: |
| Some of the friends I grew up with in Europe were also born in America. They had to chose which citizenship to keep before they turned 21. I don't think any of them chose American citizenship, but their parents wanted to give them the best opportunities and the option to chose. Seems like a sound decision from their parents point of view as it gives more options but hardly any disadvantages. |
The difference is however, that Koreans mostly hold to the uri nara concept and want foreigners here only on very limited visas for the most, go on about their culture and how it's superior to that of the US etc YET derive nearly everything that makes life here comfortable and part of the 21st century from our non Korean technology, development and other modes of progressive thinking and production.
The icing on the cake is the way in which many assume they have the right to enter and live in our countries, sometimes illegally, while wanting to deny the right to non Koreans to live and work legally in Korea or at least make a disproportionate fuss about foreigners who are mostly on very restricted visas living and working in Korea. Those kinds of Koreans need to know that if they want to be credible about their views then they need to stay home and not take advantage of the benefits of life in our countries. If they want to live elsewhere temporarily or permanently then they need to accept that non Koreans in some cases want to and will do the same in Korea. |
Reciprocity... such a novel concept. |
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toonchoon
Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:39 am Post subject: |
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| American citizens, no matter where they live, must pay USA taxes. I'm curious as to how all this is going to turn out when all these kids grow up and get jobs and start making money. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:55 am Post subject: |
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| toonchoon wrote: |
| American citizens, no matter where they live, must pay USA taxes. I'm curious as to how all this is going to turn out when all these kids grow up and get jobs and start making money. |
They'd have to have pretty high salaries for it to be an issue. |
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