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smurfetta
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It is possible for international students to pick up certification via Canadian programs, no? |
Certification is regulated provincially. For BC, contact the BC College of Teachers to find out whether you can get certification upon completion of a B.Ed.
www.bcct.ca |
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smurfetta
Joined: 03 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Just found this info in the viu link that ttompatz posted.
"Applicants who are otherwise eligible for British Columbia College of Teachers Certification but who are not Canadian citizens are required to provide evidence of landed immigrant status or hold a valid work authorization to teach in Canada, before they may be issued a British Columbia teaching credential." |
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Patong Dong
Joined: 06 May 2003
Location: On Nut
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I have been looking into the same thing with the goal of an international school. I have found one in the US through a friend that is a distance course that results in a licence for that particular state. It is online work but you need to do 10 weeks of student teaching to complete the course. Student teaching, as I understand can be completed at an accredited int'l school. Once you are licenced for that state you should be accepted internationally. Still researching if this particular case can be done by Canadians, but in my situation it would be great to not have to go to N. America to get licenced. Not sure my wife would be able to accompany me and I've got a lot of down time here to get started. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
It is possible for international students to pick up certification via Canadian programs, no? |
B.Ed = Yes, but they pay the "international student" rate (no government subsidies). The fees are comparable to what you would pay in the states.
http://www.viu.ca/calendar/GeneralInformation/tuition.asp#international
Canadian teacher's certification = probably not (unless you are legally allowed to work in Canada).
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Ralphie
Joined: 24 Mar 2010
Location: Beijing, PRC
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Patong Dong wrote: |
| I have been looking into the same thing with the goal of an international school. I have found one in the US through a friend that is a distance course that results in a licence for that particular state. It is online work but you need to do 10 weeks of student teaching to complete the course. Student teaching, as I understand can be completed at an accredited int'l school. Once you are licenced for that state you should be accepted internationally. Still researching if this particular case can be done by Canadians, but in my situation it would be great to not have to go to N. America to get licenced. Not sure my wife would be able to accompany me and I've got a lot of down time here to get started. |
Could you post the link for us, pls? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
It is possible for international students to pick up certification via Canadian programs, no? |
B.Ed = Yes, but they pay the "international student" rate (no government subsidies). The fees are comparable to what you would pay in the states.
http://www.viu.ca/calendar/GeneralInformation/tuition.asp#international
Canadian teacher's certification = probably not (unless you are legally allowed to work in Canada).
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I went to undergrad in Canada, so I'm familiar with the costs, I was just curious about actually acquiring certification. I assume that a B. Ed without certification would be fairly useless. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
It is possible for international students to pick up certification via Canadian programs, no? |
B.Ed = Yes, but they pay the "international student" rate (no government subsidies). The fees are comparable to what you would pay in the states.
http://www.viu.ca/calendar/GeneralInformation/tuition.asp#international
Canadian teacher's certification = probably not (unless you are legally allowed to work in Canada).
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Well, I am Canadian. lol Thanks for the advice. Seems most useful. |
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isisaredead
Joined: 18 May 2010
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does anybody what the best options are for getting an education degree while working in korea?
and no, i don't mean an esl degree. i meant for secondary teaching. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| isisaredead wrote: |
does anybody what the best options are for getting an education degree while working in korea?
and no, i don't mean an esl degree. i meant for secondary teaching. |
If you are NOT American, go home and do it. a B.Ed (as an add-on degree) or a PGCE/PGDE only take an extra year or 2 to complete and then you can get home country certification (which after 2 years of experience puts the real international schools on your radar).
If you are American then go home and look at the PRAXIS and alternative certification plans from different states. It is unlikely that you would ever recoup the costs of returning to university for a 2nd undergrad degree in education in addition to the costs you already have for your first degree.
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| I went to undergrad in Canada, so I'm familiar with the costs, I was just curious about actually acquiring certification. I assume that a B. Ed without certification would be fairly useless. |
No more useless than doing it in the states and it will make home state certification easier than being without it.
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| I went to undergrad in Canada, so I'm familiar with the costs, I was just curious about actually acquiring certification. I assume that a B. Ed without certification would be fairly useless. |
No more useless than doing it in the states and it will make home state certification easier than being without it.
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Reciprocity is my concern. |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| I went back to Canada and got my B.Ed after teaching in Korea for a few years. I think that it was my teaching experience in Korea that really helped me get accepted to both of the universities that I applied to. You don't have to have a super high gpa to get into a B.Ed program. |
Three BEd programmes I talked to in Canada said that I needed A) a 3.5-3.8+ GPA with no exceptions and B) my experience in Korea was worthless to them.
I decided to do my MA in Linguistics online instead and get a university job here (my plan for next year). |
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northway
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| myenglishisno wrote: |
| smurfetta wrote: |
| I went back to Canada and got my B.Ed after teaching in Korea for a few years. I think that it was my teaching experience in Korea that really helped me get accepted to both of the universities that I applied to. You don't have to have a super high gpa to get into a B.Ed program. |
Three BEd programmes I talked to in Canada said that I needed A) a 3.5-3.8+ GPA with no exceptions and B) my experience in Korea was worthless to them.
I decided to do my MA in Linguistics online instead and get a university job here (my plan for next year). |
Weird, my friend just got into a BEd program at U Ottawa with something around a 3.2-3.3. |
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silkhighway
Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada
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Education is provincially regulated in Canada and the standards vary, although once you are licensed in one province you can change to another province, but you may need to complete a bridging program.
As for GPA, it depends on what college you attend and what your specialty is. Border colleges in the US that cater to Canadian students accept anyone that meets that minimum requirements acceptable to meet the license requirements. Canadian schools typically have higher standards but if you're bilingual or are specializing in math-intensive subjects, there isn't as much competition.
Keep in mind virtually everywhere in Canada except up North and in very rural areas it is not a great time to be entering the education profession. |
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silkhighway
Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada
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| myenglishisno wrote: |
| smurfetta wrote: |
| I went back to Canada and got my B.Ed after teaching in Korea for a few years. I think that it was my teaching experience in Korea that really helped me get accepted to both of the universities that I applied to. You don't have to have a super high gpa to get into a B.Ed program. |
Three BEd programmes I talked to in Canada said that I needed A) a 3.5-3.8+ GPA with no exceptions and B) my experience in Korea was worthless to them.
I decided to do my MA in Linguistics online instead and get a university job here (my plan for next year). |
Experience in Korea is not useless when applying for a B.Ed at most schools. Particularly if your GPA is on the lower end, they're going to want to see volunteer work, overseas teaching, tutoring..a pattern that suggests that you have been thinking about public service, teaching, and working with children and youth.
Typically the selection process is a board of 3 or 4 people, and for people who at least meet the minimum requirements, there is a scoring process. Some points for experience, some points for your essay, some points for your references, some points for your GPA, and then if you make it that far, a lot of points for your interview. Then after you are ranked, your teachable subjects can make a big difference. |
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silkhighway
Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada
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Sorry for the triplicate post here, but just one more point.
A lot of international schools don't care where or how you're licensed to teach or even 'if' as long as you have an education degree, but many others teach a set curriculum, for example the Manitoba curriculum, and in order to teach this curriculum they need all their teachers to have a Manitoba teaching license. Now, for most teachers this isn't a problem if they are licensed in another province, but it's something to keep in mind when looking for the "easiest route" options.
One more point: Very, very few (if any) schools will accept you with a C- or even a C average because it may not satisfy the requirements for a license. With a C+ or B- average and good experience behind you'd have no problem. Have you considered doing a year of upgrading in a subject you'd like to teach? |
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