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[Mankind]

[the eye]

Mankind...

how do you know i didn't do my research? I did everything possible to ensure my satisfaction. I checked out the gig before i went on a little vacation. and i did my own footwork as far as reputations and blacklists are concerned. finding my own housing was not necessary because i 'saw' what i was getting.
it all changed when i arrived back from my vacation.

thats how the contract was broken. i wasn't aware that the law had changed in my province with regards to firing=release. i suppose now you are going to call me an idiot for not knowing that too. i thought that i could get out of the contract just by being fired.

as for crying for sympathy...learn to read shithead, i never asked for anything from you or anyone for anything other than advice. take your misjudgments and shove them.

and the reason i chose to change schools, is because i was didn't want to work at a university anymore, not because i was greedy.

your hypocritical attitude cracks me up...

i crossed paths with you three years ago on this board, where you attacked an english teacher for the irony of not being able to spell properly. i wrote to you because your own post was riddled with mistakes as well. we argued back and forth for pages. in the end, some guy quoted a modern philosopher in a post that made a fool of you, and your argument. in your profound ignorance, you thought he was commending your position and thanked him for his 'compliment'.

this may seem minor to you, but let me continue...

i also remember YOU, crying a river because of the poor treatment You received from an employer. i was just considering korea at that time, and i learned a lot from your mistakes....

how do i remember all this?
i ALWAYS remember the asshole s i cross paths with.

why do i bring it up now?
because you are so hypocritical, and clueless about your own arrogance that you make completely retarded assumptions on my character and intelligence.

in my op, i only wanted to know if it was possible to get out of my visa SOMEHOW. i don't recall asking for sypathy, being arrogant, or rude.

But thanks for offering me the arrogance and rudeness from your own shining personality.

i guess i should be expecting another flaming retort...right?

come on, mankind, make sure all the readers here see your profound brilliance....you haven't changed a bit.

[rapier]

EYE: just goes to show that you can be careful here but still be blindsided.. could happen to anyone actually, although they won't admit it. All it takes is that you stand up for your rights and try to enforce whats in the contract, and..BANG.. they can totally wreck you. korean management is never able to see anyone elses point of view. They just f**k you up the moment you disagree with them.
Keep us updated...

[Mankind]

[Gord]

[just because]

Mankind made some good points.

If you did your homework it was pretty poor. I always ask to see where I will be living as it will make or break your contract. If you were living here why didn't you check it out???

I know you are having a rough time and I'm sorry but it looks like you didn't look too hard at all.

I knocked back 9 jobs after interviews until i got the one I got now(granted my middle school situation isn't the best) but other than that it has worked out. Learn for the future and always ask to see the housing.

[humanuspneumos]

Though your wit Gord is quite funny I can't give credit to the assumption that: experienced teacher = not getting screwed. That's really flawed logic. It has EYE kicking and swearing and why wouldn't his response be anger? The bottom line assumption is that experienced teacher has X-ray vision, long-distance-esp, omniscience.... Not a reachable goal.


My own experience is that there isn't enough experience in the universe to keep an oldie from getting broad-sided at the intersection shortly after the lights change colors and the oldie steps into the new school.

Pragmatically- there's hardly any value in standing around swearing- just move onto point B.

Socially- as social creatures we negotiate what just happened in the intesection of life and get stuck on the fact that somebody wrongly blew a red light and smashed our new job- injustice doesn't always allow us to move on from the crash that easily.

Those of you who are implying that The Eye is a cry-baby- what exactly are you implying- that you have GOD power and everone else should too? Isn't there a label for that kind of thinking in psychology?

[the eye]

mankind...

your photographic memory probably comes in real handy remembering what you write on a message board....i can just imagine all those sentences flashing before your eyes. it was you, because you STILL sign your posts with that annoying HAND crap.

yeah, i'm a liar....

everything i wrote was true. i have no reason to lie about anything.

as for the attitude problem, shits like you bring out the best in me i guess. funny how that photographic memory doesn't recall who began flaming away in the first place.......photographic memory, good one!

my boss did trick me, he showed me one place, and put me in another...what's so difficult to understand about that? The contract specified furnishings but not location...don't twist things to suit your argument.
I never said that the recruiter tricked me you fool...as i said before....read....maybe you might need to go over it twice.

you know, i don't know why i even bother replying to your garbage. we did the same thing three years ago, and you managed to look like the fool without my help.

over and out.... make sure you photograph THIS with that memory of yours.


and gord,
i can accept blame for my own shortfalls, but i think i did what was necessary. I don't except how the system protects hakwans and gives them almost omnipotent power.

maybe someday i can be as perfect as you and mankind......someday.

[Mankind]

You really answered nothing in that post. Except for what we already knew.
You can't deal with people disagreeing with you and a lot of *beep* come-up when you post to them. I'm hardly the first, just look through your past threads about this. We can deduce you lack manners.
You avoid your responsiblity for the problem. We can deduce that you lack maturity.
You constantly contradict yourself. We can deduce that much of the truth is being hidden.

Unlike you I'll actually answer you.

[TECO]

Hey, when I taught in Japan, foreign supervisors at language schools screwing over other foreigners was the norm.

A lot p ricks out there teaching EFL who cannot do anything else back home and aren't worried about making friends in Seoul.

[the eye]

yeah, this is what happned last time we argued....your hypocracy overwhelmed you. and your ego swallowed your judgement. and you say I am immature.

i can take disagreement, i just cant stomach your oral mastur.bation.

you flame me, call me names, make snap judgements without knowing the full story...then you call me rude for defending myself....then you deduce that i have no manners. - what, rude? Good reasoning! Philosophy major, were you? argh!
and now, you deny flaming me in the first place! -what, contradiction?

as for all the shit that comes up, it doesn't mean that i can't take the disagreement, it means I object to your tone. check your photographic memory AGAIN...i only shitt-ed on those who shat on me. you obviously can't take it either, or we wouldn't still be talking about it.

as for contradicting myself...well, when you pick apart every word i say over many posts and tweak your own literal meanings from them...you could deduce anything you want...the fact that you have actually done that is quite scary. are you applying for a job with the korean police...you will make captain in no time!

and, wow...of course i am in a situation because of ME, you moron! I know what choices i made. i didn't, however, ask to be tricked , and have absolutley no legal recourse or defense.

all i wanted to know from the very start, was how i could minimize the damage. i wasn't asking for sypathy, i was asking what i could do at that point in the deal.
isn't that what this forum is for?...or are you the new god here?

yes, i probably will ask for more advice...and i expect you to stay in character and flame me in all your self proclaimed brilliance.

now, i'll give you a couple of hours to come up with some more snappy comebacks, and you can try and impress your wife and friends...everyone will pat you on the head, and chant you are da'man....and everything is right in mankind's world again.

HAND

[TECO]

This is my experience working in big 'chain' schools in Asia.

Everyone has a different experience it seems and your's is different than mine.

[OiGirl]

I don't think a visa to live and work in another country is a human right at all. It is a privledge. Some people are not qualified or deserving.

[TECO]

[OiGirl]