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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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I guarantee you cant get a job in Canada without speaking english...unless you work for a foreign company where no body speaks english.
Tuition is sky high for foreign students, on average 10 times more than Canadian students. Universities wouldn't pass up that kind of money !! |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
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| I have always wondered how foreign students are able to get into and then graduate from American universities without native level English skills. USC is a fairly selective school. How can these students even write college level papers? |
they pay up-front for the degree. |
That and they typically have out of this world GPAs in their fields of study.... |
Except that Asian students at US schools have drop out rates higher than that of American students. |
Chalk it up to cultural adjustments in many cases...
Typically however, foreign students at the University level are top of their class, have studied their butts off and pay far higher tuition. The University likes this because it puts more money in their coffers but the people that end up as foreign students at the big 10 Unis in the US are the cream of the crop.... |
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rainism
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not Asian, yet I have no friggin' idea what 'Pack 12' is either. |
I'm white and I have no idea what FIFA, EUFA or EPL stand for. |
Clearly. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| And just what is 'Pac-12'? Not saying it to be condescending, just never heard of it. |
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tatertot
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| And just what is 'Pac-12'? Not saying it to be condescending, just never heard of it. |
Pac-12 refers to an athletic conference on the US west coast consisting of 12 schools. It used to be the Pac-10, but two more schools were added to it. I wouldn't know what it is either, but I went to a Pac-10 school. |
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blm
Joined: 11 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:29 am Post subject: |
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| Privateer wrote: |
| Mr. Peabody wrote: |
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| I'm not Asian, yet I have no friggin' idea what 'Pack 12' is either. |
I'm white and I have no idea what FIFA, EUFA or EPL stand for. |
Clearly. |
Keep up the good work Mr.Peabody.
I am a football (soccer) fan but found your comment funny, mainly because of the chav bit. |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| The University likes this because it puts more money in their coffers but the people that end up as foreign students at the big 10 Unis in the US are the cream of the crop.... |
The days of just having marks to float you to a great job are over - if that ever was in the West.
Being a human calculation machine without personality of sociability would get you plugged into the wall at a medium-low level position (data entry) but wouldn't get you to higher spots. This has been a problem with University students for generations, regardless of race. |
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Ribena
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
Location: UK
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| Mr. Peabody wrote: |
| eamo wrote: |
| I'm not Asian, yet I have no friggin' idea what 'Pack 12' is either. |
I'm white and I have no idea what FIFA, EUFA or EPL stand for.
I can tell you all about the PAC-12, WAC and NFL, though.
BTW-I recently found the meaning of "CHAV", and I'm guessing it has something to do with FIFA/EUFA/EPL.
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That's because you aren't European. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| travel zen wrote: |
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| The University likes this because it puts more money in their coffers but the people that end up as foreign students at the big 10 Unis in the US are the cream of the crop.... |
The days of just having marks to float you to a great job are over - if that ever was in the West.
Being a human calculation machine without personality of sociability would get you plugged into the wall at a medium-low level position (data entry) but wouldn't get you to higher spots. This has been a problem with University students for generations, regardless of race. |
Not talking about jobs...talking about FOREIGN STUDENTS that attend top US universities.
Then again, graduates of top US Universities (such as MIT, Harvard...) typically have very little trouble securing a position.... |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| They may if they have language problems. I've seen many A+ students passed up because they have to walk around with a dictionary. It's a problem with Foreign Students. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| travel zen wrote: |
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| The University likes this because it puts more money in their coffers but the people that end up as foreign students at the big 10 Unis in the US are the cream of the crop.... |
The days of just having marks to float you to a great job are over - if that ever was in the West.
Being a human calculation machine without personality of sociability would get you plugged into the wall at a medium-low level position (data entry) but wouldn't get you to higher spots. This has been a problem with University students for generations, regardless of race. |
Not that being Mr./Ms. Socialite guarantees things either if you have the work ethic and effort of a sloth.
My dad could fall under having not the greatest social skills and being a geek and nerd, but he was President of his accounting company. Meanwhile his brother hung out with all the society of their hometown (their father, my grandad, was CEO of a bank) but is now borderline homeless (and also got grandad's bank in a bunch of hot water in the 80s during the S&L crisis). My dad also holds leadership positions in several organizations with memberships in the hundreds. Is he Mr. Social at all the gatherings, no. Why then? Because he is trustworthy, accurate, no-nonsense, diligent, and sees things through.
The question is- Who do you trust with your money? Yeah, that boring Foreign student geek. You know the one who actually follows his parents advice to save and not go out partying. Not the one whose lifestyle says "Live for the moment". Look past the superficiality of social silver tongues and check the substance underneath.
Maybe we should put some more boring pocket protector types in charge of stuff and fewer socialites. |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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Reminds me of a scene from Charlies Angels when Lucy Lu waltses into the room full of geeks...and sexually dominates them.
There is a dangerous niavety in geeks. Have one of them running your company, and they'll sell it and all therein for a kiss from a pretty gal.
Not kidding. That kind of social ignorance that nerds and young people have is very dangerous and harmful even to themselves. That's why I say they are used in most cases. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| travel zen wrote: |
Reminds me of a scene from Charlies Angels when Lucy Lu waltses into the room full of geeks...and sexually dominates them.
There is a dangerous niavety in geeks. Have one of them running your company, and they'll sell it and all therein for a kiss from a pretty gal.
Not kidding. That kind of social ignorance that nerds and young people have is very dangerous and harmful even to themselves. That's why I say they are used in most cases. |
Well, I'll go with the successful model in my life that walked the walk over various theories from the Dave's peanut gallery anyday.
Go ahead and bank your business on "social skills". In a few cases it might work, but being trustworthy with large sums of money is more valuable than a silver tongue.
Silver-tonguers are a dime-a-dozen. People who won't let money get to their heads and abuse their position are rare.
Seriously, what kind of thinking is this...
"So who should we elect as treasurer for our organization?"
"Well we have this guy who runs his own business and has served on boards before."
"BUT WAIT, remember Charlie's Angels!!! Lucy Liu would seduce this guy. We can't have him on our board. Charlie's Angel's people. CHARLIE'S ANGELS."
So what, we should put some guy like Biff Tannen in charge? Hey, he ran a casino...
 Fail of business thinking. |
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marsreloaded
Joined: 23 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| there's nothing racist about this. all i see is a bunch of americans labeling things as racist first chance they get. |
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