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shostahoosier



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject: Which Korean foods are high in cholesterol? Reply with quote

My family has a history with heart disease and I always ate healthy in the states.

When I first came here, I assumed that a lot of Korean foods were healthy but after talking with a friend I hear that's not the case.

Which Korean foods are high in bad cholesterol?
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politica



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well . . .

I would imagine the obvious stuff.

Fatty meats like samgyupsal

Fried foods like twigim or tangsuyuk

I think Korean food is quite healthy, if you eat like a Korean- Filling up on rice while eating smaller amounts of banchan. Only eating meat once in a while . . .
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay away from shrimp and shellfish, I think.
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harryh



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

김밥 has egg and ham in it. A lot of korean food has a lot of salt, wash that down with soju and a cigarette, and it may be a concern for the old ticker and the threat of stroke. I believe the rate of stroke in Korea is high. My wife has three uncles who have had strokes in their 50s.
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DaHu



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any foods that are high in cholesterol in the west are also high in cholesterol here.
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chungbukdo



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Which Korean foods are high in cholesterol? Reply with quote

shostahoosier wrote:
My family has a history with heart disease and I always ate healthy in the states.

When I first came here, I assumed that a lot of Korean foods were healthy but after talking with a friend I hear that's not the case.

Which Korean foods are high in bad cholesterol?


Why do you believe the cholesterol content of the foods you eat will have any effect on your blood cholesterol?

I eat an extremely high cholesterol diet, and have low LDL cholesterol. I can raise my LDL cholesterol without eating any additional cholesterol at all. I can also raise or lower my HDL cholesterol levels without changing dietary cholesterol intake.

If you are actually concerned about living a long life then read this site: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/ and http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Cholesterol-Rich-Foods-Raise-Blood-Cholesterol.html
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Harpeau



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are concerned with health, then here are a few suggestions:

Avoid processed instant coffee and the powdered creamer. They are very destructive over time. Drink real coffee.

Avoid salt, but use a bit of sea salt, instead.

Cut down on sugar. Enjoy the taste of fresh fruit with yogurt.

Avoid vegetable oils and highly processed food. That was the beginning of poor health in the Western World. Rather, eat extra-virgin olive oil, instead.

Tuna gimbap~ without ham is a decent meal. Tell them to put none, or only a small amount of mayo in it.

Follow the 5 rules of the leptin diet. Some good stuff!

Eat smaller portions and try not to snack between meals.

Don't eat a low-fat diet, but rather, look to the French for health and wellness. (8% obesity rate.)

Eat oatmeal with blueberries for breakfast.If cholesterol is an issue that you think is important, then it will help clear out some of the "bad cholesterol". (Though do be aware that these days there is a shift in thinking in regard to cholesterol.)

After you eat, go for a walk. Exercise.

These are only a few ideas.

All the best to you.
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jeremysums



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Which Korean foods are high in cholesterol? Reply with quote

Heard too much eggs are bad for you.

shostahoosier wrote:
My family has a history with heart disease and I always ate healthy in the states.

When I first came here, I assumed that a lot of Korean foods were healthy but after talking with a friend I hear that's not the case.

Which Korean foods are high in bad cholesterol?
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drydell



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Which Korean foods are high in cholesterol? Reply with quote

chungbukdo wrote:
shostahoosier wrote:
My family has a history with heart disease and I always ate healthy in the states.

When I first came here, I assumed that a lot of Korean foods were healthy but after talking with a friend I hear that's not the case.

Which Korean foods are high in bad cholesterol?


Why do you believe the cholesterol content of the foods you eat will have any effect on your blood cholesterol?

I eat an extremely high cholesterol diet, and have low LDL cholesterol. I can raise my LDL cholesterol without eating any additional cholesterol at all. I can also raise or lower my HDL cholesterol levels without changing dietary cholesterol intake.

If you are actually concerned about living a long life then read this site: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/ and http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Cholesterol-Rich-Foods-Raise-Blood-Cholesterol.html


Well you could take advice from The Weston Price Foundation. They are a wacky farm lobby organisation who promote extemist high saturated fat, high fat, high cholesterol diets. Butter is a health food , and so on... and have totally distorted the findings of Weston Price (a dentist who visited tribal people) .. They have almost no nutrition scientists among their organization yet claim to know so much about it. One of their original founders Stephen Byrne died of a stroke at the age of 41.....get the picture?

Many low-carb post-atkins diet gurus say the same thing btw..

I'd personally hedge my bets with every single respected heart disease organization in all leading countries of the worldwho strongly advise against eating lots of high cholesterol foods...

The advice from these organizations based on the overwhelming majority of evidence of peer reviewed studies is to....

Reduce salt, sugar, alcohol, refined carbs, processed/red/ fatty meat.. (the usual suspects)

eat whole foods more veg more fruit, nuts, legumes, 'good' oils (olive , high omega 3 etc)

There is little controversy about this among these organizations. Yet if you rely on the internet for your information you might be under the impression there is a great raging debate going on...there isn't among the people with the most credentials and experience..(same with climate science)

The ever vocal paleo/low-carb drones will claim its a big medical conspiracy, only Gary Taubes (he's a general science journalist)et al have the answers, not the thousands of expert scientists and researchers working in the field of nutrition - there is scientific consensus that the 'lipid hypothesis' is proven and correct..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipid_hypothesis#Scientific_consensus

I really recommend Dr Gregers site http://nutritionfacts.org/ for its thousands of videos cutting through the nonsense on any side (be it vegan nonsense or low-carb nonsense) and purely reporting the science on health matters..
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Which Korean foods are high in cholesterol? Reply with quote

drydell wrote:

Well you could take advice from The Weston Price Foundation...


A reasonable, intelligent post on Daves?

UNPOSSIBLE!
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EH



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drydell, have you ever actually read Weston Price's research? I think you'll find it correlates closely with the work of the Weston Price Foundation. I cannot imagine what you are referring to when you say the research is being distorted. Go back to "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" and go to the section on nutritional comparisons of global butter samples at the end of the book, then tell me Price did not recommend butter (from cows grazing on rapidly growing grass) as the number one health food for those consuming a Western diet, in conjunction with other healthy foods.

I would not claim that Sally Fallon is a gourmet cook (her kimchi recipe is a joke!!), but the basic principle of eating only real food--with the fat that comes with it naturally--is fundamentally sound. It's not a radical idea, and it is backed up by plenty of scientific literature. The Weston Price Foundation would pretty much say the same thing that Harpeau was saying, I believe. Eat real food, keep moving, and keep in mind the value of "super foods" while not getting all orthorexic about eating.
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drydell



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EH wrote:
Drydell, have you ever actually read Weston Price's research? I think you'll find it correlates closely with the work of the Weston Price Foundation. I cannot imagine what you are referring to when you say the research is being distorted. Go back to "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" and go to the section on nutritional comparisons of global butter samples at the end of the book, then tell me Price did not recommend butter (from cows grazing on rapidly growing grass) as the number one health food for those consuming a Western diet, in conjunction with other healthy foods.

I would not claim that Sally Fallon is a gourmet cook (her kimchi recipe is a joke!!), but the basic principle of eating only real food--with the fat that comes with it naturally--is fundamentally sound. It's not a radical idea, and it is backed up by plenty of scientific literature. The Weston Price Foundation would pretty much say the same thing that Harpeau was saying, I believe. Eat real food, keep moving, and keep in mind the value of "super foods" while not getting all orthorexic about eating.


I've been to their website and read enough about them - you cannot avoid them on the internet these days...You want a good review of how they distort Weston Price? - read this http://tinyurl.com/yz8omse

They are an aggressively anti-vegetarian farm lobby group who have - very successfully - spread ridiculous propaganda over the internet (eg the 'anti-soy' stuff) and have suckered in a lot of people. I'm going to point this out every time some low-carber links to them. Their articles don't read like they are neutral/objective. And that is because they are a farm lobby organization using the name of Price to promote their industry.

You wanna follow a farm lobby group for heart disease advice? - go ahead - i'd follow the American Heart Association myself.
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chungbukdo



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: Which Korean foods are high in cholesterol? Reply with quote

drydell wrote:
Well you could take advice from The Weston Price Foundation. They are a wacky farm lobby organisation who promote extemist high saturated fat, high fat, high cholesterol diets. Butter is a health food , and so on...
Many low-carb post-atkins diet gurus say the same thing btw..

Extremist? lol The USDA which publishes the food pyramid is a farm lobby organization and is also the main source of funding for the AHA. The people who write the food pyramid have careers all directly related to the USDA. The only "lobbying" the Weston Price people do is own a website which advocates for raising cows on grass instead of corn and allowing people to legally buy pastured butter and raw milk, which is currently illegal in the United States but not many countries across Europe or the rest of the world. That's not much of a "lobby" group, considering they only take donations from small time farmers and individuals, and no large corporation even sells the milk they are lobbying to have legalized.

Personally, I don't drink milk and don't agree with that organization on everything. But I do agree with the articles I linked to because the author only discusses the finding of certain studies. If I link to one article it does not mean I agree with the whole organization. If Hitler believed the Earth was round and I support his view, it does not mean I support the rest of Hitler's views. It is a logical fallacy to say that what I linked to in the articles is wrong because the organization that is discussing the egg-feeding studies is anything. Scientists stick to the facts, not arguing over authority.

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I'd personally hedge my bets with every single respected heart disease organization in all leading countries of the worldwho strongly advise against eating lots of high cholesterol foods...

1. "Heart disease organizations" have an extremely poor record of treating heart disease, which has skyrocketed dramatically when we've been eating the diets they've told us to eat. They've told us to do a lot of stupid, idiotic things over the years which have turned out horribly wrong and harmed people, and only included stuff like omega-3 recommendations decades too late.
2. "Every single heart disease organization" does not "advise against eating lots of high cholesterol foods." Many if not most of these organizations recognize the scientific consensus that shows that dietary cholesterol may not increase lipid cholesterol, and it is infact the saturated fat in many cholesterol containing foods which directly upregulates the LDL receptor, which has been shown in in vitro studies directly. And you might want to actually argue against the studies in the guys article that he talks about instead of arguing from authority, which is a logical fallacy. If somebody talks about cholesterol feeding studies that do not show increases in risk factors for CVD, a scientific-minded person would show why those studies do not lead to that particular conclusion, not just say "well organization X disagrees with you, and they are reputable." The Catholic Church was reputable, it didn't make them more right than Galileo.

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The advice from these organizations based on the overwhelming majority of evidence of peer reviewed studies is to....

There are ZERO peer reviewed controlled feeding studies that show meat or saturated fat play a causal role in deaths from CVD.
There are several studies, among them the most recent that actually look at saturated fat, which say there is no correlation whatsoever in dietary intervention trials, between saturated fat intake and deaths from CVD. Here is one of the more recent ones http://www.ajcn.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstract In fact, this link is a meta-analysis of ALL the dietary intervention trials that look at the saturated fat heart health hypothesis and this meta analysis of all the studies shows NO correlation between saturated fat and heart health. Wow, that's a far cry from your position that all peer reviewed studies support your view isn't it? It seems like none of them do. And Krauss is published in AJCM... you don't seem to be. Hmm, how about that?

A broad-based multi-country population study can tell you almost nothing, especially with regard to diet, especially studies from before the 70s such as Ancel Keyes' studies that showed some correlation between CVD and saturated fat intake. Dietary intervention trials are much more accurate than huge survey based recall studies over large populations.

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Reduce salt, sugar, alcohol, refined carbs, processed/red/ fatty meat.. (the usual suspects)

eat whole foods more veg more fruit, nuts, legumes, 'good' oils (olive , high omega 3 etc)

The only thing you disagree with the Weston Price Institute on is red and fat containing meat, which humans evolved on for our entire evolution. If you can bring up a study that shows a causal connection between red meat or saturated fat intake and deaths from cardiovascular disease in a dietary internvention trial, then I would be glad to read it. Because I've read and dissected nearly everything used to support that hypothesis that has been published in the last 20 years. If you have something new to show me which you believe would shed some light on the issue then I will be glad to revise what I think based on that new evidence.

This is not some kind of political battle where people or right wing or left wing and we have to stick to camps. Actually read scientific studies (not just abstracts, and scrutinize their conclusions) and then base your opinions on the facts, not summaries intended for public consumption by organizations. And don't show up here with a bunch of recall/survey epidemiological studies which are the weakest form of scientific evidence.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Which Korean foods are high in cholesterol? Reply with quote

drydell wrote:
chungbukdo wrote:
shostahoosier wrote:
My family has a history with heart disease and I always ate healthy in the states.

When I first came here, I assumed that a lot of Korean foods were healthy but after talking with a friend I hear that's not the case.

Which Korean foods are high in bad cholesterol?


Why do you believe the cholesterol content of the foods you eat will have any effect on your blood cholesterol?

I eat an extremely high cholesterol diet, and have low LDL cholesterol. I can raise my LDL cholesterol without eating any additional cholesterol at all. I can also raise or lower my HDL cholesterol levels without changing dietary cholesterol intake.

If you are actually concerned about living a long life then read this site: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/ and http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Cholesterol-Rich-Foods-Raise-Blood-Cholesterol.html


Well you could take advice from The Weston Price Foundation. They are a wacky farm lobby organisation who promote extemist high saturated fat, high fat, high cholesterol diets. Butter is a health food , and so on... and have totally distorted the findings of Weston Price (a dentist who visited tribal people) .. They have almost no nutrition scientists among their organization yet claim to know so much about it. One of their original founders Stephen Byrne died of a stroke at the age of 41.....get the picture?

Many low-carb post-atkins diet gurus say the same thing btw..

I'd personally hedge my bets with every single respected heart disease organization in all leading countries of the worldwho strongly advise against eating lots of high cholesterol foods...

The advice from these organizations based on the overwhelming majority of evidence of peer reviewed studies is to....

Reduce salt, sugar, alcohol, refined carbs, processed/red/ fatty meat.. (the usual suspects)

eat whole foods more veg more fruit, nuts, legumes, 'good' oils (olive , high omega 3 etc)

There is little controversy about this among these organizations. Yet if you rely on the internet for your information you might be under the impression there is a great raging debate going on...there isn't among the people with the most credentials and experience..(same with climate science)

The ever vocal paleo/low-carb drones will claim its a big medical conspiracy, only Gary Taubes (he's a general science journalist)et al have the answers, not the thousands of expert scientists and researchers working in the field of nutrition - there is scientific consensus that the 'lipid hypothesis' is proven and correct..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipid_hypothesis#Scientific_consensus

I really recommend Dr Gregers site http://nutritionfacts.org/ for its thousands of videos cutting through the nonsense on any side (be it vegan nonsense or low-carb nonsense) and purely reporting the science on health matters..


Your link is referring to the idea that blood cholesterol levels cause heard disease. I don't remember seeing that fact in dispute.

Everything I have ever read from peer reviewed sources is that there is a minimal link between dietary cholesterol and LDL levels. Your body produces cholesterol naturally, and usually produces less to account for dietary intake. More important to cholesterol health is to cut down on saturated fats and trans fats, whereas the fats from foods like nuts and olives are actually heart healthy.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health/t/bad-cholesterol-its-not-what-you-think/

""There is a very weak connection between the LDL cholesterol we measure and dietary cholesterol," Dr. Krauss says."
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