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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| I don't think you understand what it is to back up your statements. You don't use opposition party sources, you need a much more independent source. Also, you'll need to provide sources in English if you hope to gain any credibility on an English board. |
Yonhap News is neither Chojoongdong & KBS (right wing media group) nor Hankyungoh (left wing media group). It's the one of two independent news sources in South Korea; OhMyNews is the other one. Can't speak Korean? Too bad for you. It's your loss. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| I don't think you understand what it is to back up your statements. You don't use opposition party sources, you need a much more independent source. Also, you'll need to provide sources in English if you hope to gain any credibility on an English board. |
Yonhap News is neither Chojoongdong & KBS (right wing media group) nor Hankyungoh (left wing media group). It's the one of two independent news sources in South Korea; OhMyNews is the other one. Can't speak Korean? Too bad for you. It's your loss. |
It's not the news source, it's the fact that this is the opinion of Kim Jin-Pyo and his party, who is a member of the opposition party. It's like a Republican calling Obama a failure backed up by Republican studies. You will need an independent source, not from the opposition party. So your source carries little weight in backing up your statements.
And again, you'll have to source english sources, or translate the Korean. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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It's not the news source, it's the fact that this is the opinion of Kim Jin-Pyo and his party, who is a member of the opposition party. It's like a Republican calling Obama a failure backed up by Republican studies. You will need an independent source, not from the opposition party. So your source carries little weight in backing up your statements.
And again, you'll have to source english sources, or translate the Korean. |
I'm just gonna ignore you in this thread from now on. It's impossible for me to respect a person who supports a dangerous criminal, AKA you, jvalmer. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
It's not the news source, it's the fact that this is the opinion of Kim Jin-Pyo and his party, who is a member of the opposition party. It's like a Republican calling Obama a failure backed up by Republican studies. You will need an independent source, not from the opposition party. So your source carries little weight in backing up your statements.
And again, you'll have to source english sources, or translate the Korean. |
I'm just gonna ignore you in this thread from now on. It's impossible for me to respect a person who supports a dangerous criminal, AKA you, jvalmer. |
You do realize I don't like LMB. But you still haven't provided a credible source to your statement. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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But if somebody wants to discuss about the inflation vis-a-vis the Bank of Korea....
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| South Korean President Lee Myung Bak said it�s difficult to find ways to curb inflation that may exceed the 4 percent target this year, as the central bank left interest rates unchanged on concerns global growth is slowing. |
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-08/south-korea-s-lee-says-inflation-cures-are-difficult-to-find.html
Difficult? Lee Myung-bak absolutely loves high inflation.
Lee Myung-bak is the first president to directly control the Bank of Korea. 9 out of 10 officials working at the Bank of Korea concerns that the BoK chairman, Sujung Kim's leadership is deeply connected to Lee Myung-bak.(http://news.nate.com/view/20110204n00785) And Sujung Kim is the main individual who decides the interest rate. He is very famous for making unrealistic decisions and not many Koreans trust in his decisions. He is rumored to have received a hefty bribery from Lee Myung-bak's closest acquaintance few years ago.
This is Lee Myung-bak who we are dealing with. He is one of the fewest businesspeople who got long-term benefits from the high interest rate during the Asian Financial Crisis (and from the new national construction regulations) right before his mayoral career.
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| You do realize I don't like LMB. But you still haven't provided a credible source to your statement. |
I apologize then. But here's the problem. Most of the sources are in Korean and it's impossible to find a credible English source. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
But if somebody wants to discuss about the inflation vis-a-vis the Bank of Korea....
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| South Korean President Lee Myung Bak said it�s difficult to find ways to curb inflation that may exceed the 4 percent target this year, as the central bank left interest rates unchanged on concerns global growth is slowing. |
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-08/south-korea-s-lee-says-inflation-cures-are-difficult-to-find.html
Difficult? Lee Myung-bak absolutely loves high inflation. |
You do understand there is little he can do to control inflation. Raise interest rates, then you risk slowing down the economy even more. It doesn't matter who's in power, the events in 2008 sideswiped every country in the world..
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People like you will be lynched if we have a left-wing president in the Blue House in the future.
I only don't feel safe from a political terrorist like you.
It's impossible for me to respect a person who supports a dangerous criminal |
Statements like these do not help your cause at all. You really should tone it down in order to gain any respect. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| YOU made an accusation... why not back it up? |
I already backed it up. Read the Hankyoreh. There are this year's articles that discuss what happened back in 2008. The answers are all there. You're too lazy to read them.
Why do you keep defending 2MB, a criminal who got a rare constitutional pardon from the anti-democratic military dictator, Park Chung Hee?
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| LMB wanted the Korean public school teachers to teach their subjects in English. Even Roh wasn't willing to go that far. |
And 2MB was partly responsible for destroying GEPIK and stealing most of the fundings of public schools during the illegal bill incident last December. And you still defend this nutjob ex-Hyundai white-collar criminal? You're out of your league. |
Proof? Links? Anything to back up this claim? |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
But if somebody wants to discuss about the inflation vis-a-vis the Bank of Korea....
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| South Korean President Lee Myung Bak said it�s difficult to find ways to curb inflation that may exceed the 4 percent target this year, as the central bank left interest rates unchanged on concerns global growth is slowing. |
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-08/south-korea-s-lee-says-inflation-cures-are-difficult-to-find.html
Difficult? Lee Myung-bak absolutely loves high inflation. |
You do understand there is little he can do to control inflation. Raise interest rates, then you risk slowing down the economy even more. It doesn't matter who's in power, the events in 2008 sideswiped every country in the world..
| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
People like you will be lynched if we have a left-wing president in the Blue House in the future.
I only don't feel safe from a political terrorist like you.
It's impossible for me to respect a person who supports a dangerous criminal |
Statements like these do not help your cause at all. You really should tone it down in order to gain any respect. |
Exactly what I was thinking. He calls me a terrorist and says I'm going to be killed if Leftists come to power, yet he's scared of talking to you and me??
All because I asked him to back up his claim.
So far, his posts are full of fluff. Nothing of substance other than nutty rants against the current president.
I think the Hanky has soured his thoughts. If he thinks that the Right is the only corrupt faction in SK, he's in for a rude awakening someday.
Heck, didn't the Seoul Ed. Superintendent just get nailed for election rigging??
I hope that bugger goes down - I voted against him and his populist policies. |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: In my Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope that bugger goes down - I voted against him and his populist policies. |
Aren't you from Alberta? Has 'Texas North' finally become a U.S. State? |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Louis VI wrote: |
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| I hope that bugger goes down - I voted against him and his populist policies. |
Aren't you from Alberta? Has 'Texas North' finally become a U.S. State? |
hahahaha
Good memory.
No, no notion of statehood yet. Might eventually take the Western half and form our own though.  |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Heck, didn't the Seoul Ed. Superintendent just get nailed for election rigging??
I hope that bugger goes down - I voted against him and his populist policies. |
In theory these populist policies are ideal. I mean who would oppose feeding every kid if you had the money to fund it? But where will all this money come from?
It's like leftist Koreans have not noticed what is happening in Europe. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:16 am Post subject: |
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I just never saw the need for the 'feed every kid' program.
Many/most families can afford to feed their kids. I don't see why tax dollars NEED to be spent in that direction.
Feed the ones that need it? Sure, no real issue there. But why must EVERYONE pay for kids/families that can take care of themselves?
grrrrrr...
The DP really beat the snot out of Oh on this one. He and the GNP was so busy fighting the money issue, they failed to realize that the DP shifted the goal posts into a 'face' issue. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:37 am Post subject: |
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| Exactly what I was thinking. He calls me a terrorist and says I'm going to be killed if Leftists come to power, yet he's scared of talking to you and me?? |
I didn't say you were terrorist other than your political idea will pretty much hated by 70% of South Koreans by next year. Truth will set you free. That's for sure.
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| I just never saw the need for the 'feed every kid' program. |
The 'feed every kid' program gradually started small 2 years ago.... with an official approval from the Seoul GNP officials other than Oh Se Hun. It was the time when he made the scheme of his failed Design Seoul project and ignored everything other than himself.
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| Feed the ones that need it? Sure, no real issue there. But why must EVERYONE pay for kids/families that can take care of themselves? |
You do know that this has nothing to do with kids lunch money in the long run. Oh Se Hun was over-funding the Gangnam-gu ward during his 2nd administration in office. The newspapers had written articles about how Oh's voting power came from Gangnam right before the kids' lunch election. The Gangnam ward in 2011 has been unexpectedly leftist compare to 2006-9. I don't know why. I'm not from Gangnam.
But at the end, the whole kids' lunch vote wasn't about Oh Se Hun nor any fancy political stunt. It was bloodless coup plotted by a minority of anti-2MB leftist GNP politicians and the DP. |
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Captain Corea

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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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At least he doesn't plot evil schemes with Chojoongdong. That's a very huge plus that could save Korea. His morally safe stance with the press is his source of power. There's nothing wrong with him.
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Apparently those places don't challenge you on your assertions.
Perhaps you're safer there. |
I only don't feel safe from a political terrorist like you.
After all. You are defending a dangerous criminal with a huge influence from (rather unethical) big companies and Chojoongdong. That shows very much about your mindset. Plus, right-wing Chosun Ilbo and Joongang Ilbo are crawled with left-wing/center-wing commentators like me these days.
Be careful. People like you will be lynched if we have a left-wing president in the Blue House in the future. |
Look at this. You call me a 'political terrorist' and tell me to 'be careful or I'll be lynched'. Lynched! |
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