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Tower of Babel



Joined: 29 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hCCCRAcTAA
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bekinseki



Joined: 31 Aug 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

antsea wrote:
@bekinseki - thanks for the info. Is there somewhere to look for those kind of listings, or do you have to have contacts?


Facebook groups are pretty good about listing them. All that information was cut-and-pasted from these two groups:

http://www.facebook.com/koreanpunkandhardcore
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Goth-Korea/175453622490100

The second best resource is Koreagigguide.com, but it's not so helpful if you don't know the genres of all the bands.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't find it in the countryside or a smaller city.

Remember "Cohiba's Rule" (Now better than ever!):

Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell Cuban cigars, European pies, cold
cuts or rye breads. Just to name a few things. Also clubs such
as photography, drama, public speaking, sailing are 99% in
the capital city. If you want to experiment with a very Korean
culture, which unfortunately means "closed", then choose the
countryside. If you want to make money and have the lifestyle
choices similar to a western country, then there is no other
choice than Seoul.

The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.

If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.

This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains.
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antsea



Joined: 24 Apr 2010
Location: Yongin

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice. Cheers.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can Cohiba's rule please die? It's out of date and written by a guy who had an ugly porn star as his avatar.

Not exactly the pinnacle of credibility.
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bekinseki



Joined: 31 Aug 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
You won't find it in the countryside or a smaller city.

Remember "Cohiba's Rule" (Now better than ever!):

Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell Cuban cigars, European pies, cold
cuts or rye breads. Just to name a few things. Also clubs such
as photography, drama, public speaking, sailing are 99% in
the capital city. If you want to experiment with a very Korean
culture, which unfortunately means "closed", then choose the
countryside. If you want to make money and have the lifestyle
choices similar to a western country, then there is no other
choice than Seoul.

The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.

If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.

This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains.


Somewhat agreed, but it's getting better outside Seoul now. While the vast majority of shows are in Seoul (specifically Hongdae), there are shows this weekend in Bupyeong, Gwangju, Cheonan, and Busan. Nothing in Daejeon and Daegu, which are usually pretty active. Although, granted, if you go to shows in these cities they're usually predominantly foreigners.
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isisaredead



Joined: 18 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
You won't find it in the countryside or a smaller city.

Remember "Cohiba's Rule" (Now better than ever!):

Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell Cuban cigars, European pies, cold
cuts or rye breads. Just to name a few things. Also clubs such
as photography, drama, public speaking, sailing are 99% in
the capital city. If you want to experiment with a very Korean
culture, which unfortunately means "closed", then choose the
countryside. If you want to make money and have the lifestyle
choices similar to a western country, then there is no other
choice than Seoul.

The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.

If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.

This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains.


ARGH!!!! WHAT THE FUNK!?!?!?!

WHY WON'T THAT STUPID THING DIE.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
You won't find it in the countryside or a smaller city.

Remember "Cohiba's Rule" (Now better than ever!):

Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell Cuban cigars, European pies, cold
cuts or rye breads. Just to name a few things. Also clubs such
as photography, drama, public speaking, sailing are 99% in
the capital city. If you want to experiment with a very Korean
culture, which unfortunately means "closed", then choose the
countryside. If you want to make money and have the lifestyle
choices similar to a western country, then there is no other
choice than Seoul.

The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.

If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.

This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains.


Cohiba's Rule stopped applying back in 2005-06. Small cities have the same sorts of amenities available for foreigners that only used to exist in big cities half a decade ago. Foreigners are also more scattered now and even very small cities have a decent selection of foreigners to choose from.
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bekinseki



Joined: 31 Aug 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still, this thread is about music counterculture, not about being surrounded by foreigners, and it still somewhat applies.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bekinseki wrote:
Still, this thread is about music counterculture, not about being surrounded by foreigners, and it still somewhat applies.


The variety of 'music counterculture' in Korea is less varied than it is in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada... population 350k Razz
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bekinseki



Joined: 31 Aug 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

myenglishisno wrote:
bekinseki wrote:
Still, this thread is about music counterculture, not about being surrounded by foreigners, and it still somewhat applies.


The variety of 'music counterculture' in Korea is less varied than it is in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada... population 350k Razz


Yes, and 95% of it in this country gathers in one small part of Seoul.
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