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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.korea.net/news.do?mode=detail&guid=53018

Okay, so I was wrong with that 1000 number. It's closer to 10,000. But again Korea does not encourage immigration. I'd say based on the article the vast majority are the foreign wives of Korean men. But 100,000 naturalized citizens in 50 years sounds to me like a country that does no encourage immigration.

joesp wrote:
In 2002, the Korean government came up with the F-5 visa which granted the ethnic Chinese from Taiwan a solution to their long history of trouble with Korean immigration. The F-5 is long-term residency status. One of the eligibilities for citizenship is that you have resided for 2 years on certain visa types, of which the F-5 is one of. If you are an English teacher, you will know that you are eligible to apply for citizenship after 5 years on an E-2 so you can see the preferential status they are granted. And this is without marrying a Korean.
The F-5 was not created to encourage immigration. It was created to make entering Korea for foreigners with homes in Korea easier.

joesp wrote:
I think you believe that non-Koreans cannot become Korean citizens, which is so so wrong.
I do not believe that. But unless you're married to a Korean, or you're an ethnic Korean, obtaining Korean citizenship is extremely difficult.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joesp wrote:
Because hating the government of the place where you live generally will not make you happy about being in Korea. Your despising the government's supposed stance towards immigration will only make you bite the hand that feeds, which is not a happy situation.
Why do you think I despise the Korean government? I was just stating that the Korean government doesn't encourage immigration.

joesp wrote:
Unfortunately, I have won every argument to the contrary so far. Unless you have more bad facts to present about anti-immigration policies that simply do not exist.
Believe what you want. I don't see how you can say Korea is pro-immigration?

joesp wrote:
No, but they actively support them once they have done so. And, they allow them to apply for Korean citizenship, and get it, after 2 years of marriage and living in Korea. I don't know how you can say that this is an anti-immigration policy.
I never stated that supporting foreign wives is anti-immigration. As I stated before unless you have some kind of tie to Korea like marriage, ethnicity or money, getting Korean citizenship is difficult.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
Talk to a non-white person who went to school in North America pre-1990. Probably similar stories. There was even one older Japanese-Canadian gentleman that I once met that barely ate rice when growing up, because his father was so worried about racism.


It's better in America, generally, but you still have stories of this black valedictorian who had to share her place with a white girl and in 2011 in America. However, we have so many minorities in North America and they're concentrated, it's not the case in Korea. That blonde girl is viewed as a threat to the girls. I am sad she is suffering.
There are risks. Some people have said their kids have been fine in the schools. I think it depends on the school and place.
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thurst



Joined: 08 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some little douches broke a girl's arm and they're not getting shipped off to juvie? that sounds more like a failure of the korean justice system than anything else.
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