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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Korea's national dish only made it to number 12 and they thought that was worthy of a news item. Sad. I actually had some kimchi yesterday that, by accident, the wife's mother had forgotten to coat in all that red crap and it was surprisingly not bad. |
I live in Gwangju, and I think the kimchi here is better than the kimchi from the Seoul or Gyeongi-do area. I was surprised that it was better. I like kimchi. It's one of my favorite things to eat in this world, believe it or not. I am not a huge fan of Korean food by the way, but I definitely like some dishes like Dak Galbi, Bulgogi, Deonjeon Chigae, Kimchi Jigae, and the cold noodle dishes... |
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metalhead
Joined: 18 May 2010
Location: Toilet
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| Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Wow that's some horrid Romanisation right there (above).
Bizarrely enough, the best kimchi I had was in China, which is odd, doesn't most kimchi here come from China? Not that it matters much, it's not good food in any case. |
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, NETs in South Korea should stop reading the English Chosun Ilbo.
Chosun Ilbo writes low-quality tabloid-like articles, like that kimchi article above. |
It's amusing that their education division employs a crap ton of foreigners. |
It's amusing that their education division employs a crap ton of foreigners talking trash about them (Koreans and their food) on Dave's Esl Cafe. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:50 am Post subject: |
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| Moondoggy wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
By the way, NETs in South Korea should stop reading the English Chosun Ilbo.
Chosun Ilbo writes low-quality tabloid-like articles, like that kimchi article above. |
It's amusing that their education division employs a crap ton of foreigners. |
It's amusing that their education division employs a crap ton of foreigners talking trash about them (Koreans and their food) on Dave's Esl Cafe. |
I think because some people don't like Korea and Koreans, so they want to vent by attacking Korean pride in kimchee. Kimchi can be an acquired taste, but it has been touted by some Westerners for its health benefits. I've always liked kimchee. If some people don't, then they don't. Those who don't like Korea at all, can vote with their feet. |
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isisaredead
Joined: 18 May 2010
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| Moondoggy wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
By the way, NETs in South Korea should stop reading the English Chosun Ilbo.
Chosun Ilbo writes low-quality tabloid-like articles, like that kimchi article above. |
It's amusing that their education division employs a crap ton of foreigners. |
It's amusing that their education division employs a crap ton of foreigners talking trash about them (Koreans and their food) on Dave's Esl Cafe. |
I think because some people don't like Korea and Koreans, so they want to vent by attacking Korean pride in kimchee. Kimchi can be an acquired taste, but it has been touted by some Westerners for its health benefits. I've always liked kimchee. If some people don't, then they don't. Those who don't like Korea at all, can vote with their feet. |
that's a poor argument. why would someone attack the food just because they don't like the country?
could it be that kimchi isn't the gourmet delicacy the country claims it to be? and i've yet to see the health benefits outweighing the negatives. there's a reason why south korea has a ridiculously high rate of stomach cancer. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| isisaredead wrote: |
that's a poor argument. why would someone attack the food just because they don't like the country?
could it be that kimchi isn't the gourmet delicacy the country claims it to be? and i've yet to see the health benefits outweighing the negatives. there's a reason why south korea has a ridiculously high rate of stomach cancer. |
do you ever read the crap you type? i'm boggled at the fact that almost all of your posts are assumptive and more often than not, incorrect.
you researched the benefits and the drawbacks of fermented foods like kimchi before you made that statement right? or did you expect this truckload of raw data to fall into your lap? you should research lactic acid some day.
and as for cancer, there is no proven correlation between kimchi and cancer, and i'd bet you'd be hard pressed to find one. some think that it's the high sodium content of the korean diet that causes stomach cancer and others think it's the large consumption of alcohol and it could very well be both or it could be none of the above. it sure isn't just kimchi though. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Just as it may not be true that scientists have proved eating kimchi causes less stress in mice. As I genuinely read in a book about great Korean achivements a few years ago.  |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20410300,00.html
Why to try it: Kimchi (or kimchee) is loaded with vitamins A, B, and C, but its biggest benefit may be in its �healthy bacteria� called lactobacilli, found in fermented foods like kimchi and yogurt. This good bacteria helps with digestion, plus it seems to help stop and even prevent yeast infections, according to a recent study. And more good news: Some studies show fermented cabbage has compounds that may prevent the growth of cancer.
http://bkcreative.hubpages.com/hub/Probiotics-and-Other-Benefits-of-Korean-Kimchi
Well-fermented kimchi is known to have antibiotic functions such as lactic acid bacteria produced in the fermentation process which then suppresses the growth of harmful bacteria. It also helps to prevent the growth of other bacteria in the intestines. For meat eaters, kimchi also helps to prevent hyperacidity that is the result of excessive meat intake and other acidic foods.
Further, kimchi:
- helps reduce indigestion and gas. Excess bad bacteria causes irritation leading to indigestion, gas and fluid retention.
- helps you feel less hunger. Lactobacillus, one common strain of good bacteria has been linked to appetite control. Good bacteria helps stabilize blood-sugar levels which means less frequent and less intense hunger and fewer fat storage hormones.
Some studies have shown that kimchi can shorten the duration of a cold. Other studies have shown that kimchi can help clear up yeast infections and UTIs (Urinary Tract Infections).
The juice and salt from kimchi helps to keep the intestines clean.
The chili peppers and garlic help to lower blood cholesterol and are an aid in blood-clotting.
http://www.brighthub.com/health/diet-nutrition/articles/29830.aspx
Kimchi prevents obesity through its fermentation process and the ingredients used to help it ferment. According to several studies, the fermentation process allows lactic acid to penetrate the food, allowing healthy bacteria to form, called Lactobacillus kimchii. This bacteria promotes lactic acid. According to the National Center for Biotechnology Information, lactic acid prolongs endurance, regulates the digestion system, and promotes healthy metabolic functioning in men. It naturally boosts the metabolism and allows you to exercise longer, naturally fuelling your workout. Instead of gulping down a chocolate shake, eat Korean food rich with this Korean condiment.
Kimchi's ingredients also make this a healthy and low calorie Korean food. Its main ingredients, fish paste, dried chili peppers, and garlic, all have powerful nutritional properties and are packed with antioxidants. Dried chili peppers, for example, prevents obesity because it contains capsaicin, the chemical that causes food to be hot. Capsaicin helps people get fuller fast, reducing the amount of food eaten. It prevents obesity by reducing hunger signals quickly. It also boosts the metabolism, which is important if you want to prevent obesity.
Garlic, which is heavily used in Korean food, prevents obesity by improving circulation, removing particles that cause blood clots, and stabilizes cholesterol levels. Combined with food, it helps reduce fat while providing your body with plenty of obesity-fighting antioxidants.
These ingredients are beneficial for all dieters. Kimchi boosts energy, keeps you from eating more food, and effectively prevents obesity by reducing heart disease, blood clots, and abnormal cholesterol levels. Preventing obesity never tasted so sweet! |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| isisaredead wrote: |
could it be that kimchi isn't the gourmet delicacy the country claims it to be? and i've yet to see the health benefits outweighing the negatives. there's a reason why south korea has a ridiculously high rate of stomach cancer. |
do you ever read the crap you type? i'm boggled at the fact that almost all of your posts are assumptive and more often than not, incorrect. |
It helps if you imagine isisaredead to be your slow cousin who everyone ignores whenever you read his posts. |
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isisaredead
Joined: 18 May 2010
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| isisaredead wrote: |
that's a poor argument. why would someone attack the food just because they don't like the country?
could it be that kimchi isn't the gourmet delicacy the country claims it to be? and i've yet to see the health benefits outweighing the negatives. there's a reason why south korea has a ridiculously high rate of stomach cancer. |
do you ever read the crap you type? i'm boggled at the fact that almost all of your posts are assumptive and more often than not, incorrect.
you researched the benefits and the drawbacks of fermented foods like kimchi before you made that statement right? or did you expect this truckload of raw data to fall into your lap? you should research lactic acid some day. |
actually, i did. why would i say something i can't back up? fermented, spicy food is not all that good for your stomach - particularly in the quantities koreans eat it.
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| and as for cancer, there is no proven correlation between kimchi and cancer, and i'd bet you'd be hard pressed to find one. some think that it's the high sodium content of the korean diet that causes stomach cancer and others think it's the large consumption of alcohol and it could very well be both or it could be none of the above. it sure isn't just kimchi though. |
while you may have a point, i doubt anyone would disagree that kimchi ISN'T a contributor to the high rates of korean stomach cancer. it's seriously not a healthy food to be eating three-to-four times a day.
geez, man, i really pushed your buttons, huh. chill out. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Sadly, I have had several friends visit Korea and try the food over the years. They generally try to act kind about it, but most common remarks were:
1. Why is this fatty meat so expensive? (One person remarked that their family gives pieces like it as scraps for the dog to eat).
2. How can they taste it with all of that red sauce?
3. OMG this stinks!
4. Thanks for showing us Korean food, but next, can we try that McDonalds or KFC we saw?
As for me, I like water kimchi, gakdugi, and j-yook. |
Yes certain types of food are an acquired taste. When trying something new for the first time there's no guarantee people are going to like it. Most would rather stick with something familiar that their taste buds have adapted to (like McDonalds or KFC as you said). |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| isisaredead wrote: |
that's a poor argument. why would someone attack the food just because they don't like the country?
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I'm guessing you don't read this forum much do you? |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| isisaredead wrote: |
that's a poor argument. why would someone attack the food just because they don't like the country?
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I'm guessing you don't read this forum much do you? |
There are many Dave's posters (not the majority) who will attack whatever they can that is Korean and feel smug about it. You can kind of sense that tone in many people's posts. Personally, I like kimchee. I feel the health benefits. It has so many benefits, and I eat it quite often. Maybe one shouldn't go overboard when eating it, but it's a good way for me to get my veggies, get some garlic, and get the healthy bacteria. Fermented foods have long been part of Asian society. Many of us like sauerkraut. Sauerkraut in its original form came from East Asia originally.
Some people probably react badly to the fact that kimchee is very spicy.
In my opinion, I think we need fermented foods in the West. I also like fermented Japanese dishes. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I like kimchi - but I draw the line at eating it in the morning. Why would you want to smell like that all day? |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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I was told kimchi was regarded by Koreans as just a popular side-dish until the Park Chung-hee administration ordered his propaganda people to big-up some Korean stuff so that the newly established country of South Korea would have some symbols to take nationalistic pride in........the other example being the 'four distinct seasons' thing.
Anyone know if that's true? Did Koreans make these claims about the wonders of kimchi before the 1960's? |
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