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ZIFA
Joined: 23 Feb 2011
Location: Dici che il fiume..Trova la via al mare
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| I am getting irritated that I have posted my resume on Dave's 3 times and I keep getting some of the same recruiters emailing me who never replied to me when I sent them my resume before.. |
Many recruiters don't actually read your resume properly.
With me, typically, a lot of recruiters jump on me because I have a nice photo. Then they drop me like a stone when they realise how old I am (over 30, gasp!).
They just are often too dumb to read the small details. |
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williamsabia
Joined: 30 May 2011
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Luckily, I was accepted at a school in Seoul since posting this message. It's true, job search is hard, this was one of only two actual offers I had. It took a full month of staying up every night emailing and skyping with recruiters and just being relentless. I did start emailing Taiwan and China schools and then I got the job, but also, be willing to head to other cities in Korea. Hopefully, y'all get the job you want. |
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smee18
Joined: 24 Mar 2009
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:51 am Post subject: |
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this downturn is likely to last until 2016.
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2016 my a$$. In the late 80's/early 90s the second biggest capitalist economy went into a recession, and is STILL IN IT.
IMHO, the so-called recovery will be NEVER, if things are allowed to persist as they are. The supposed solution to the 2008 financial crisis was legalised theft, the private appropriation of public wealth, a la the American treasury, as well as austerity driven privatisations of social infrastructure throughout Europe, to allow bankers to continuing creating the unsustainable debt that caused the crisis to begin with. Of course it is all going to collapse again. Student debt, credit card debt, resurging asset bubbles ... the difference though will be that next time the governments of the world will be literally incapable of bailing out the cleptocrats. See if I'm wrong. In 2016 things will be much WORSE than they are now. |
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FastForward
Joined: 04 Jul 2011
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I think I've contacted about 30 recruiters with about 15 responses and only about 6 that are actively searching for me. A lot of times when I turn down a job contract the recruiter stops talking to me. I have had about 10 interviews in 6 weeks, 7 contract offers and still no job. Most contracts were bad or at the wrong time. The jobs sent my way are getting fewer and fewer....Hopefully I'll get something next week. Waiting to hear back from 2 interviews I had on Friday. |
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Tallgesse
Joined: 06 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| FastForward wrote: |
| I think I've contacted about 30 recruiters with about 15 responses and only about 6 that are actively searching for me. A lot of times when I turn down a job contract the recruiter stops talking to me. I have had about 10 interviews in 6 weeks, 7 contract offers and still no job. Most contracts were bad or at the wrong time. The jobs sent my way are getting fewer and fewer....Hopefully I'll get something next week. Waiting to hear back from 2 interviews I had on Friday. |
Still new to all this and trying to learn from everyone's experinces before I have to start this process myself. Could you elaborate for me a bit please? What made your contracts bad, and what are you looking for that they are not offering?
Also I am assuming just from the context of this post alone, you are not a first timer to Korea correct? |
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rayray123
Joined: 27 Jan 2010
Location: korea
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| FastForward wrote: |
| I think I've contacted about 30 recruiters with about 15 responses and only about 6 that are actively searching for me. A lot of times when I turn down a job contract the recruiter stops talking to me. I have had about 10 interviews in 6 weeks, 7 contract offers and still no job. Most contracts were bad or at the wrong time. The jobs sent my way are getting fewer and fewer....Hopefully I'll get something next week. Waiting to hear back from 2 interviews I had on Friday. |
At the moment I am not sure how many are actively working with me. Not many I think. Often even when a recruiter does reply to me they offer me some sh** job and when I tell them I am not interested they stop replying to me.
I keep getting offered these jobs with long hours. Like 9:30-7:30, and only paying 2.2mil.
| Tallgesse wrote: |
Still new to all this and trying to learn from everyone's experinces before I have to start this process myself. Could you elaborate for me a bit please? What made your contracts bad, and what are you looking for that they are not offering?
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The question wasn't addressed to me, but I'll tell about the contracts I turned down.
I think there's been 3 contracts I turned down this summer. First contract I turned down was a couple months ago and I can't remember everything about it. It had only 5 days vacation, a lot of phone lessons in addition to normal classes, and there were several other sketchy things about it. I also got a really uneasy feeling from the interview and foreign teacher I talked to. The location was nothing special. Can't remember where it was. Somewhere in Gyeonggi-do.
Another one I turned down sounded great at first. When I interviewed, the hours were like 1-9 or something. After the interview I was told they would prefer a woman, but they would still hire me if I would work a split shift instead.
Last contract I turned down I wasn't very interested in it to begin with, but I was feeling desperate to get a job and did an interview anyway. The location was not very good, and it had long, late hours. I thought about taking it, but then decided it wasn't worth it.
There was one contract I accepted at the beginning of the summer, but I didn't get my apostilled CBC back fast enough and they wouldn't wait for me. |
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Tallgesse
Joined: 06 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I feel like I read about your contract where they said "we'd prefer a woman but we'll take you if you work split shifts." In that situation, I would have considered it at least (I know split shifts can be rough. Sometimes I work those here.) had it not been for the fact that they said we'd prefer a woman. My fear would be unlawful firing or not offering me a renewal if they found a woman to take my place. |
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FastForward
Joined: 04 Jul 2011
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| Tallgesse wrote: |
| FastForward wrote: |
| I think I've contacted about 30 recruiters with about 15 responses and only about 6 that are actively searching for me. A lot of times when I turn down a job contract the recruiter stops talking to me. I have had about 10 interviews in 6 weeks, 7 contract offers and still no job. Most contracts were bad or at the wrong time. The jobs sent my way are getting fewer and fewer....Hopefully I'll get something next week. Waiting to hear back from 2 interviews I had on Friday. |
Still new to all this and trying to learn from everyone's experinces before I have to start this process myself. Could you elaborate for me a bit please? What made your contracts bad, and what are you looking for that they are not offering?
Also I am assuming just from the context of this post alone, you are not a first timer to Korea correct? |
I am a first timer and am currently looking for a job while vacationing in Korea. I originally thought this process would be pretty easy, as there was tons of jobs and have heard many stories of 100's of jobs in peoples inbox and stuff like that. This wasn't the case for me. I got jobs sent my way, but it was a few here and there, maybe 4 in Seoul. I have had the "we hired a female instead of you" line after the contract was sent and signed by me....That pisses me off.
The contracts that I turned down were either long hours/too much work or in a small town in Korea. The first three I turned down were actually decent, but I thought I could get better and turned them down. Looking back, I probably should have taken the jobs, because the location wasn't bad(Daegu), but I had in my head "nothing but Seoul". When I realized that I couldn't achieve that, I expanded my search, but it seemed harder and harder to get a job.
So, that is my story and hopefully I'll get a job this upcoming week. Does anyone know if a school can back out of the contract once both parties have signed and dated the contract? |
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Tallgesse
Joined: 06 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah...lol...would not be an issue for me. I do NOT want to be in Seoul. Something tells me I'm going to be a recruiters dream for that reason. Maybe I'm nieve. Actually Gwangju interest me the most. I love what I've heard about the artsy vibe there. But its far from the only place I'll take. |
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rayray123
Joined: 27 Jan 2010
Location: korea
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Tallgesse wrote: |
| I feel like I read about your contract where they said "we'd prefer a woman but we'll take you if you work split shifts." In that situation, I would have considered it at least (I know split shifts can be rough. Sometimes I work those here.) had it not been for the fact that they said we'd prefer a woman. My fear would be unlawful firing or not offering me a renewal if they found a woman to take my place. |
Yeah I have probably mentioned it before. I did consider it, but it started too early in the morning and ended too late for me. I don't mind starting early OR finishing late, but not both. I was also mad that the hours changed after the interview. The school was in Gangnam, so I am sure they would have no trouble finding a woman, so I don't know why they bothered interviewing me at all.
I had one recruiter tell me the peak hiring season for hakwons is July-August. Is this true? Has anyone else heard this? She was trying to get me to apply for some job I didn't really want, so I don't know if it is true, or if she was just saying that to try to get me to accept the only job she had to offer me. |
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leftx47
Joined: 12 Aug 2011
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| Tallgesse wrote: |
| I feel like I read about your contract where they said "we'd prefer a woman but we'll take you if you work split shifts." In that situation, I would have considered it at least (I know split shifts can be rough. Sometimes I work those here.) had it not been for the fact that they said we'd prefer a woman. My fear would be unlawful firing or not offering me a renewal if they found a woman to take my place. |
Or it could just have been a underhanded bargaining tactic, and the job you thought you were interviewing for never existed. Really, they they only had the split shift job and were just hoping you'd be desperate enough at the end to take it when they gave you some BS excuse about the first one. (In this case it was "not a woman", but could have been "too old" or any other equally invalid reason.)
Either way, risk of dumpage for a woman or lies from the start, it's probably just as well you passed. |
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jeremysums
Joined: 08 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:29 am Post subject: Re: Used my recruiters, no job, now what? |
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Keep applying, supply and demand. A lot of teachers looking for a job right now. I heard on the news even professors are getting evaluated and if the budget is not met, bye bye professors.
| williamsabia wrote: |
| I have my file on at least 40 different recruiters lists, I know due to my inbox. They told me that they cannot send my resume more than once to schools. I have not received any contracts yet, and I have had my apostilled documents since August 7. Also, I have 4 years teaching experience and a CELTA degree, it can't be due to lack of experience, it can't be due to bad interviews, I've only had about 3-4. What am I doing wrong and what can I do to keep hagwons flushed with my resume? |
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AlastairKirby
Joined: 29 Aug 2011
Location: UK
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| williamsabia wrote: |
| Luckily, I was accepted at a school in Seoul since posting this message. It's true, job search is hard, this was one of only two actual offers I had. It took a full month of staying up every night emailing and skyping with recruiters and just being relentless. I did start emailing Taiwan and China schools and then I got the job, but also, be willing to head to other cities in Korea. Hopefully, y'all get the job you want. |
Congratulations! Proof that there are jobs out there. Good luck with your new job! |
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AlastairKirby
Joined: 29 Aug 2011
Location: UK
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| Tallgesse wrote: |
| Yeah...lol...would not be an issue for me. I do NOT want to be in Seoul. Something tells me I'm going to be a recruiters dream for that reason. Maybe I'm nieve. Actually Gwangju interest me the most. I love what I've heard about the artsy vibe there. But its far from the only place I'll take. |
I've visited Gwangju and it's a very nice place. One of my best Korean friends comes from there and she recommends it. Go for it and good luck! |
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Warhammer820
Joined: 03 Jun 2011
Location: USA
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| williamsabia wrote: |
| Luckily, I was accepted at a school in Seoul since posting this message. It's true, job search is hard, this was one of only two actual offers I had. It took a full month of staying up every night emailing and skyping with recruiters and just being relentless. I did start emailing Taiwan and China schools and then I got the job, but also, be willing to head to other cities in Korea. Hopefully, y'all get the job you want. |
That's great to hear William. Did you have any prior teaching experience anywhere? What agency did you use? |
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