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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chadders wrote:
Nice one!

I think if I explain to the school beforehand they should be ok with.


Don't tell the school anything, as it's none of their concern. They don't determine whether you pass or not, the medical professionals doing the check do. If there's an issue you can discuss it with the school, but there's no reason to divulge personal medical information prior to that.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
Chadders wrote:
Nice one!

I think if I explain to the school beforehand they should be ok with.


Don't tell the school anything, as it's none of their concern. They don't determine whether you pass or not, the medical professionals doing the check do. If there's an issue you can discuss it with the school, but there's no reason to divulge personal medical information prior to that.


Do you really think the medical information is not passed on to the school via the POE?

The POE certainly gets a copy of your medical information...what would be the point of requesting teachers to get a medical check if that information was kept strictly confidential between the doctor and the patient?
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
northway wrote:
Chadders wrote:
Nice one!

I think if I explain to the school beforehand they should be ok with.


Don't tell the school anything, as it's none of their concern. They don't determine whether you pass or not, the medical professionals doing the check do. If there's an issue you can discuss it with the school, but there's no reason to divulge personal medical information prior to that.


Do you really think the medical information is not passed on to the school via the POE?

The POE certainly gets a copy of your medical information...what would be the point of requesting teachers to get a medical check if that information was kept strictly confidential between the doctor and the patient?


When I've taken medical checks, I've been the one who picks up the form and I've been able to redact most of the information outside of my name. That aside, there's no reason to give them a heads up about something that might not even show up on the test.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
northway wrote:
Chadders wrote:
Nice one!

I think if I explain to the school beforehand they should be ok with.


Don't tell the school anything, as it's none of their concern. They don't determine whether you pass or not, the medical professionals doing the check do. If there's an issue you can discuss it with the school, but there's no reason to divulge personal medical information prior to that.


Do you really think the medical information is not passed on to the school via the POE?

The POE certainly gets a copy of your medical information...what would be the point of requesting teachers to get a medical check if that information was kept strictly confidential between the doctor and the patient?


When I've taken medical checks, I've been the one who picks up the form and I've been able to redact most of the information outside of my name. That aside, there's no reason to give them a heads up about something that might not even show up on the test.



Picking up the form does not negate the almost dead certainty they've sent a copy to the POE (or whoever it is) before it's been redacted. The hospital certainly keeps a non-redacted copy for their records so I don't really see the point of redacting the form...it's not like the school can't just call the hospital up and ask behind your back.
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northway



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Picking up the form does not negate the almost dead certainty they've sent a copy to the POE (or whoever it is) before it's been redacted. The hospital certainly keeps a non-redacted copy for their records so I don't really see the point of redacting the form...it's not like the school can't just call the hospital up and ask behind your back.


Fair enough, but I also don't see the point in telling them something beforehand that might not even be an issue. It's a bridge you cross when you get to it.
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Feloria



Joined: 02 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bottom line--
Don't tell ANY Korean co-worker, manager, etc., ANYTHING you don't absolutely have to.
This includes anything medical, personal, financial.
Any little thing that you reveal that isn't neccesary can come back and bite you in the ass later, even if it's not intentional.
I don't mean to sound overly negative or paranoid, but even the Korean co-workers that seem like they're your friends--talk A LOT--to each other--about the foreign teachers.
Take it from me and quite a few of my friends who wish we kept our mouths shut.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feloria wrote:
Bottom line--
Don't tell ANY Korean co-worker, manager, etc., ANYTHING you don't absolutely have to.
This includes anything medical, personal, financial.
Any little thing that you reveal that isn't neccesary can come back and bite you in the ass later, even if it's not intentional.
I don't mean to sound overly negative or paranoid, but even the Korean co-workers that seem like they're your friends--talk A LOT--to each other--about the foreign teachers.
Take it from me and quite a few of my friends who wish we kept our mouths shut.


This canard needs to die. Your Korean coworkers are not aliens. They're people too! They can easily be your friends, assuming you are an open-minded individual.
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DaHu



Joined: 09 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not a "see if you're healthy" screening

It's a "see if you'll give anything to Koreans" screening
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Feloria



Joined: 02 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NORTHWAY-
Did I say Korean co-workers are aliens? No.
I'm simply saying that in the WORKPLACE one has to be very careful about what one reveals.
This is true anywhere of course, but in a foreign country certain revelations may be perceived quite differently than you expect them to be.
It's called common sense.
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Chadders



Joined: 20 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont really care what they think and if they annoy me - I'll leave. I've been in and out of various parts of Asia for the last 10 years so I have a good idea what to expect.

I'm primarily concerned with leaving my job here, turning up in Korea and then finding I have no job!
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northway



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feloria wrote:
NORTHWAY-
Did I say Korean co-workers are aliens? No.
I'm simply saying that in the WORKPLACE one has to be very careful about what one reveals.
This is true anywhere of course, but in a foreign country certain revelations may be perceived quite differently than you expect them to be.
It's called common sense.


Really?

Feloria wrote:
Bottom line--
Don't tell ANY Korean co-worker, manager, etc., ANYTHING you don't absolutely have to.
This includes anything medical, personal, financial.
Any little thing that you reveal that isn't neccesary can come back and bite you in the ass later, even if it's not intentional.
I don't mean to sound overly negative or paranoid, but even the Korean co-workers that seem like they're your friends--talk A LOT--to each other--about the foreign teachers.
Take it from me and quite a few of my friends who wish we kept our mouths shut.


You're clearly not talking about workplaces in general, and instead are talking specifically about Korean workplaces (and Koreans). As for Koreans talking to one another about other people in the office, this is not unique to Korea. People gossip, it's human nature. Common sense dictates to be careful of what you say in a professional environment regardless of where you are, it doesn't mean that you should never befriend your coworkers (which is what you'd be saying, if your first post was really meant to apply to workplaces the world over). Bottom line, there are plenty of people here who have made meaningful, lasting friendships with Korean coworkers, and to completely shut them out is to miss out on a wealth of potential friends.
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Feloria



Joined: 02 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude-RELAX!!
You seem to be getting a tad bit bent out of shape--
I never said "don't befriend Korean co-workers", just be careful what you say-especially if it isn't something you want everyone to know.
And of course you have to be careful about what you say "everywhere". That's kind of implied--
The reason I mention Korean co-workers?? Possibly because WE'RE IN KOREA!
But Hey if you want to reveal personal things about yourself to your K co-workers, more power to you--just don't be surprised if it comes back to bite you in the ass later.
As I said in the original post, it could be unintentional, but it does happen Confused
Good Luck!
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