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So WHAT exactly am I missing by foregoing Seoul...?
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michellegm15



Joined: 30 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:51 am    Post subject: So WHAT exactly am I missing by foregoing Seoul...? Reply with quote

I have been scouring the "where to live" threads, and as a thoroughly indecisive person, this leaves me all the more confused. My visa docs are coming in very soon, so I need to crack down on the decisions.

I am a bit hesitant to look for a job in Seoul because of all of the comments I see...it's freezing cold, harder to meet people (both expat and Korean), not so friendly, polluted (though getting better?), expensive, not as nature-accessible, only really better to be in if you need niche international food on a regular basis...

Is there anything I'm missing? This is a last-ditch attempt to see if there is some other hidden "X"-factor I'm missing before I take the plunge elsewhere.

I realize it all depends on what I'm looking for, and I am looking for a sense of friendliness (Korean and expat both), nature, would like to save money rather than constantly spend...yet also need that sense of diversity/liveliness/young energy in a city. I'm also strictly vegetarian. I hate freezing winters, but I'm used to it by now...can manage.
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calendar



Joined: 22 Sep 2011
Location: being a hermit

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are not missing anything but convenience. It is cold all over the country except Jeju Do in the winter. I fyou want warm winters try Taiwan, Viet Nam etc.

If you like cities Korea offers many choices other than Seoul which are just as convenient. If you want to experience the real Korea then you go to the rural areas.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) International food.

2) Partying.

That said, most of Korea's cities are just mini-Seouls anyway, so it's not like you'll get a vastly different experience anywhere you go.
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Drew345



Joined: 24 May 2005

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in the heart of Seoul. Just to have cereal for breakfast and make a sandwich for dinner, I have to go 30 minutes one direction for wheat bread and whole wheat cereal (Costco), then 20 minutes another direction for low fat cheese and milk (Homeplus). This is inside Seoul. I think outside Seoul you just can't find a lot of stuff and end up going native a bit more.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the posters above. Seoul offers nothing other cities don't have, except more access to western food, and several other cities, especially Busan, are reasonably close.

If weather is a factor, consider Busan or Changwon. The south coast is significantly warmer in winter.

I don't know if it means anything to you yet, but you will be the 'diversity' in Korea.
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dirty air and pissy passive-agressive people?
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DaHu



Joined: 09 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
Dirty air and pissy passive-agressive people?


Some of these people forget the "passive" part
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crescent



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew345 wrote:
I live in the heart of Seoul. Just to have cereal for breakfast and make a sandwich for dinner, I have to go 30 minutes one direction for wheat bread and whole wheat cereal (Costco), then 20 minutes another direction for low fat cheese and milk (Homeplus). This is inside Seoul. I think outside Seoul you just can't find a lot of stuff and end up going native a bit more.

I live in Daegu. I can get whole wheat bread, low fat milk, low fat cheese, imported beer, at Emart, or Homeplus, or Costco. Any one of those places is 15-20 minutes away by bus. In fact everything seems to be 15-20 minutes away.

I could also walk to any of three bakeries within a 5 minutes, and get whole wheat bread.
I could also walk to any of the marts within a 5 minutes, and get low fat milk, and imported beer.

I also pay less for these things than I would in Seoul, and have to fight less crowds to get them.

So, the only POSITIVE things I'm missing from Seoul is a higher quantity of international restaurants, and a higher quantity of western style nightclubs. But, again... way too expensive and not very satisfying.
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Malislamusrex



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sitting in a taxi for 40 minutes to go 7 miles, and a lot of hype.
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michellegm15



Joined: 30 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses! This is extremely helpful...and I'm glad my intuitions seem to be correct. Makes my decision lots easier...

One question though, is it easy to be a healthy vegetarian outside of Seoul? Or to find certain natural/organic items, like soy milk?
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why live in London or Paris or New York when you can get foreign restaurants and the same shops in other cities in those countries? If you can't think of a good answer for that then yes you might as well stay out in the sticks.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

michellegm15 wrote:
Thanks for the responses! This is extremely helpful...and I'm glad my intuitions seem to be correct. Makes my decision lots easier...

One question though, is it easy to be a healthy vegetarian outside of Seoul? Or to find certain natural/organic items, like soy milk?

Soy milk is plentiful everywhere. Health food shops have become increasingly common throughout the country in the last few years, with lots of (pricy) organic products. Larger chain supermarkets likewise are featuring more "well-being" foods.

Being a strict vegetarian will pose challenges though. Your eating out options will be very limited as many seemingly vegetarian dishes will contain hidden fish or animal ingredients.
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northway



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

michellegm15 wrote:
One question though, is it easy to be a healthy vegetarian outside of Seoul? Or to find certain natural/organic items, like soy milk?


This won't be easy anywhere.
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michellegm15



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:

Being a strict vegetarian will pose challenges though. Your eating out options will be very limited as many seemingly vegetarian dishes will contain hidden fish or animal ingredients.


Damnit. I was scared of that...seems like the case in many places in the world though, so c'est la vie for the other side of the world I suppose...does location make it easier, or are most cities the same?
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

michellegm15 wrote:
Thanks for the responses! This is extremely helpful...and I'm glad my intuitions seem to be correct. Makes my decision lots easier...

One question though, is it easy to be a healthy vegetarian outside of Seoul? Or to find certain natural/organic items, like soy milk?


Don't be such a picky eater and you'll be fine.
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