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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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 Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:31 pm Post subject: Potentially Habitable Planet found 35 light-years away |
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The bumper haul of new worlds includes 16 "super-Earths" - planets with a greater mass than our own, but below those of gas giants such as Jupiter.
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Of the new finds, a total of five planets have masses that are less than five times that of Earth.
"These planets will be among the best targets for future space telescopes to look for signs of life in the planet's atmosphere by looking for chemical signatures such as evidence of oxygen," said Francesco Pepe, from the Geneva Observatory, who contributed to the research.
One of the worlds, called HD 85512 b, is estimated to be only 3.6 times the mass of the Earth.
It is located at the edge of the habitable zone - the narrow strip around a star where liquid water can be present on the surface of a planet. Liquid water is considered essential for the existence of life. |
Its exciting to live in a time where we begin to peer into the possibility of other worlds out there. |
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ATM SPIDERTAO
Joined: 05 Jul 2009
Location: seoul, south korea
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| damn, how awesome would it be to be born 300-500 years in the future??? damn i would love to be one of the first colonizers of new worlds haha maybe in this lifetime! |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| ATM SPIDERTAO wrote: |
| damn, how awesome would it be to be born 300-500 years in the future??? damn i would love to be one of the first colonizers of new worlds haha maybe in this lifetime! |
To colonize such a world we'd have to develop warp drives. Warp drives are measured by how much faster they are than the speed of light. Thus a warp 1 drive would go the speed of light. It is very unlikely that our propulsion systems would even ever reach light speed, or warp 1. Remember that the speed of light is just over 186,000 miles per SECOND. Find a propulsion system that can power a spacecraft that can travel 186,000 miles per HOUR and then we'll begin to have that conversation. |
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Angry Bird Rios
Joined: 15 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| To colonize such a world we'd have to develop warp drives. Warp drives are measured by how much faster they are than the speed of light. Thus a warp 1 drive would go the speed of light. It is very unlikely that our propulsion systems would even ever reach light speed, or warp 1. Remember that the speed of light is just over 186,000 miles per SECOND. Find a propulsion system that can power a spacecraft that can travel 186,000 miles per HOUR and then we'll begin to have that conversation. |
I guess you missed this post:
Speed of light broken at CERN, scientists claim |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Angry Bird Rios wrote: |
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| To colonize such a world we'd have to develop warp drives. Warp drives are measured by how much faster they are than the speed of light. Thus a warp 1 drive would go the speed of light. It is very unlikely that our propulsion systems would even ever reach light speed, or warp 1. Remember that the speed of light is just over 186,000 miles per SECOND. Find a propulsion system that can power a spacecraft that can travel 186,000 miles per HOUR and then we'll begin to have that conversation. |
I guess you missed this post:
Speed of light broken at CERN, scientists claim |
Great, a neutrino was found travelling just faster than the speed of light. How does that get us to warp-drive propulsion? |
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stilicho25
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think you need warp drive. The oort clouds extend deep into space from what I have read. So there isn't really a deep dark unbridgeable gap. You just need to find and inhabit the planetoids between the systems. It would't be as good as earth, but neither would these super-earths. Resources are plenitful, we just need to find objects of great enough size and mass to live on.
It will be like the pacific ocean in the age to of steam. With enough refueling stations, you can get to where your going, even with a primitive engine. Only instead of months, these journeys will take decades. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:31 am Post subject: |
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| ATM SPIDERTAO wrote: |
| damn, how awesome would it be to be born 300-500 years in the future??? damn i would love to be one of the first colonizers of new worlds haha maybe in this lifetime! |
My plan is to live forever. |
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recessiontime
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
Location: Got avatar privileges nyahahaha
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| 3.6x the size of Earth means 3.6x the gravity doesn't it? Wouldn't I weigh 3.6x as much on this planet?? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| ATM SPIDERTAO wrote: |
| damn, how awesome would it be to be born 300-500 years in the future??? damn i would love to be one of the first colonizers of new worlds haha maybe in this lifetime! |
To colonize such a world we'd have to develop warp drives. Warp drives are measured by how much faster they are than the speed of light. Thus a warp 1 drive would go the speed of light. It is very unlikely that our propulsion systems would even ever reach light speed, or warp 1. Remember that the speed of light is just over 186,000 miles per SECOND. Find a propulsion system that can power a spacecraft that can travel 186,000 miles per HOUR and then we'll begin to have that conversation. |
Ah, remember the immortal words of Clem Kadiddlehopper when he first saw Henry Ford drive by in his horseless carriage...I think he said something like, "Yikes! Wheels are a passing fad, you fool! Just wait till you get headed downhill. It's a slippery slope, sonny. Put your money in buggy whip factories, if you want my advice."
Who knows if those neutrino thingies will turn out to be travelling faster than the speed of light?
The best comment I ever heard about time travel: It must be impossible since no one from the future has ever come back to visit us from the future...but maaaaaaybe, we will find a way to travel into space. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| Angry Bird Rios wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| To colonize such a world we'd have to develop warp drives. Warp drives are measured by how much faster they are than the speed of light. Thus a warp 1 drive would go the speed of light. It is very unlikely that our propulsion systems would even ever reach light speed, or warp 1. Remember that the speed of light is just over 186,000 miles per SECOND. Find a propulsion system that can power a spacecraft that can travel 186,000 miles per HOUR and then we'll begin to have that conversation. |
I guess you missed this post:
Speed of light broken at CERN, scientists claim |
Great, a neutrino was found travelling just faster than the speed of light. How does that get us to warp-drive propulsion? |
The same way a bullet traveling faster than the speed of sound gets us to supersonic flight?
Hard work, dedication, innovation, and patience. |
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johnnyenglishteacher2
Joined: 03 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| Angry Bird Rios wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| To colonize such a world we'd have to develop warp drives. Warp drives are measured by how much faster they are than the speed of light. Thus a warp 1 drive would go the speed of light. It is very unlikely that our propulsion systems would even ever reach light speed, or warp 1. Remember that the speed of light is just over 186,000 miles per SECOND. Find a propulsion system that can power a spacecraft that can travel 186,000 miles per HOUR and then we'll begin to have that conversation. |
I guess you missed this post:
Speed of light broken at CERN, scientists claim |
Great, a neutrino was found travelling just faster than the speed of light. How does that get us to warp-drive propulsion? |
Well, it redefines what is physically possible if it does indeed turn out to be true. |
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johnnyenglishteacher2
Joined: 03 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| The best comment I ever heard about time travel: It must be impossible since no one from the future has ever come back to visit us from the future...but maaaaaaybe, we will find a way to travel into space. |
Unless they decided not to go backwards. They might decide it's too risky - in the same way that a 21st century human might very quickly succumb to some nasty disease if he/she went back a few hundred years, we may now have illnesses which would kill somebody from 2450AD.
Anyway, who would want to come back here, if you're advanced enough to travel in time? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| johnnyenglishteacher2 wrote: |
| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| The best comment I ever heard about time travel: It must be impossible since no one from the future has ever come back to visit us from the future...but maaaaaaybe, we will find a way to travel into space. |
Unless they decided not to go backwards. They might decide it's too risky - in the same way that a 21st century human might very quickly succumb to some nasty disease if he/she went back a few hundred years, we may now have illnesses which would kill somebody from 2450AD.
Anyway, who would want to come back here, if you're advanced enough to travel in time? |
Are you an adherent of Michele Bachmann?  It's fairly certain that a vaccine from today would protect you from the Black Death of 1348. It just would...if nothing else, the first time a time traveler felt a bit peevish, he could pop back to his own time and get an antidote. Just because characters in sci fi novels get trapped back in time doesn't mean real people would.
Now your point that the future may have forgotten things that we know...somehow, if they can figure out time travel, I am (maybe foolishly) confident that they will remember common everyday medicine. I do realize that I have not the first idea how to make an effective bow and arrow...I know what they look like and I understand the principles involved, but don't have a clue about selecting the right type of tree or how to make an arrowhead out of a stone...but I have confidence that if I am smart enough to figure out how to travel through time, I would have the smarts to check the knowledge base and find out how to make a fire without turning the dial on my stove. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| Angry Bird Rios wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| To colonize such a world we'd have to develop warp drives. Warp drives are measured by how much faster they are than the speed of light. Thus a warp 1 drive would go the speed of light. It is very unlikely that our propulsion systems would even ever reach light speed, or warp 1. Remember that the speed of light is just over 186,000 miles per SECOND. Find a propulsion system that can power a spacecraft that can travel 186,000 miles per HOUR and then we'll begin to have that conversation. |
I guess you missed this post:
Speed of light broken at CERN, scientists claim |
Great, a neutrino was found travelling just faster than the speed of light. How does that get us to warp-drive propulsion? |
The same way a bullet traveling faster than the speed of sound gets us to supersonic flight?
Hard work, dedication, innovation, and patience. |
The speed of sound is 786 miles per hour. The speed of light is 186,000 miles per SECOND.
Hard work, dedication, innovation, and patience my ass. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| Anyway, who would want to come back here, if you're advanced enough to travel in time? |
Granted there are many other times that would be fascinating to visit, but why wouldn't someone come back to now? We live in a very fascinating time...A great power, the marvel of its time, commits 'suicide' because half its people believe that if you click your ruby slippers together three times and say, "There's no place like home. The magic free market will fix everything and all will be hunky dory and spiffy keen."
Spain started its downward tragectory in 1588 and didn't reach the bottom until 1898, then spent 7 decades working out its future. China chose to pull back in the early 1400s and didn't come out of that debacle for 500 years and then took another 70 years to straighten itself out. There will be scholars of the future who will be curious why the US chose to follow the same path and would like to visit the moment we decided to shoot ourselves in both feet. |
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