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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:55 pm Post subject:

RangerMcGreggor wrote:

nathanrutledge wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Brian in Jeollado run into some trouble when he accepted money for a published article? ?

Yep. He didn't get permission from his employer which is what he got nailed on.

http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2010/04/investigated-by-immigration-over.html

Though it should be noted that Brian has quiet a bit of enemies around Korea, and this was not the first time he had been harassed due to stuff he published. So if you are going to write in Korean newspapers, be careful.

There are loads of "opportunities" to write in Korea. Just very few that pay. I've been out of Korea nearly two years, and haven't written much original in nearly that long, but several times a month I get invitations---well, spammy form letters anyway---asking to contribute to this website, or that magazine. Of course, none of them pay their contributors anything, they just offer a little exposure.

You can get published in newspapers pretty easily there. The Korea Times, I know, accepts submissions from everyone, and 10 Magazine is always looking for contributors. Not sure how submission-friendly the Korea Herald is anymore. There are also a bunch of magazines around that, even if they don't want articles right this minute, would appreciate an extra native English speaker to help proofread. The Gwangju News is one example that I volunteered for.

Others are right, though, and you do have to be a little careful about taking money. As the other poster said, I got into some trouble with immigration over getting about $500 for ten or eleven articles over a year-and-a-half.

http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2010/04/investigated-by-immigration-over.html

It's unlikely you'll get that amount of attention . . . I upset a lot of netizens and some other journalists, so they were looking for a way to get me in trouble. If all my contributions were pretty photographs and articles about festivals and expos, and other fluffy, pleasant stuff like that, I wouldn't have gotten any attention at all.

You'll need to start small, probably with a local magazine or website. Starting your own blog helps, too, because you need to demonstrate staying-power. Then when you develop a readership and a nice portfolio of work, you can think about trying to earn some money, or about even applying for a writing job that comes up from time to time.

Just get your school's permission before you take money, and make sure you get any agreement---and especially refusals---in writing. You never know when you'll have to prove you DIDN'T get paid to a room of immigration officials.

calendar

Joined: 22 Sep 2011
Location: being a hermit

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:15 pm Post subject:

I know more people are not going to like what I will say here but it needs to be said.

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Unless of course you run afoul of someone. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Brian in Jeollado run into some trouble when he accepted money for a published article? IMO, if you keep your nose clean, you'll be okay. If you get to stepping on toes, you better dot those T's and cross those I's...

Smee's blog and articles were very wrong. HE set himself up as the savior of Korea and proved he ws out of touch with reality, didn't know what he was talking about and just loved to flame. His articles were nothing but attacks on the Korean people, its society and culture.

He forgot that Korea is a independent and sovereign nation free to run itself as the Korean people see fit. He ignored the laws of the land and thought his American rights were valid in a foreign country.

He was one of the people I forgot to include on my listof foreigners who cause problems for other FTs. If there is ever a blog that should be blocked, it is Smee's

Smee wrote:

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I upset a lot of netizens and some other journalists, so they were looking for a way to get me in trouble

Typical American, blame everyone else but yourselves. If you weren't doing it wrong then your 'enemies' couldn't touch you. You chose to do it wrong thus the trouble you got into was and is totally your own fault and responsibility. You have no one else to blame but yourself. Grow up and take the responsibility and learn that you can't trash a nation, its people and its laws and get away with it.

Yes I do not like Korean haters.

amck

Joined: 17 Aug 2011

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:47 pm Post subject:

Cheers for that Smee, it's really helpful.

Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:32 pm Post subject:

calendar wrote:

I know more people are not going to like what I will say here but it needs to be said.

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I upset a lot of netizens and some other journalists, so they were looking for a way to get me in trouble

lol.

bluethree

Joined: 20 May 2009

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:45 pm Post subject:

ttompatz wrote:

amck wrote:

Thanks for all the advice. Din't think it would be that much an issue. How likely/unlikely will immigration be to let me take on a second job?

Not that difficult PROVIDED you are not working for a public school (government workers are forbidden to take a 2nd job that is not also a government job).

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Does this still apply if you're working for an AFTERSCHOOL program? I recently got an offer from one and because of the lower hours I'm eager to earn some extra money with part time work.

ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:24 pm Post subject:

bluethree wrote:

ttompatz wrote:

amck wrote:

Thanks for all the advice. Din't think it would be that much an issue. How likely/unlikely will immigration be to let me take on a second job?

Not that difficult PROVIDED you are not working for a public school (government workers are forbidden to take a 2nd job that is not also a government job).

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Does this still apply if you're working for an AFTERSCHOOL program? I recently got an offer from one and because of the lower hours I'm eager to earn some extra money with part time work.

It depends on who is your actual visa sponsor (who signed the guarantee form and whose business registration is on file for you as your sponsor).

IF your visa sponsor is the (public) school then yes, it applies.
IF your visa sponsor is NOT the (public) school then no, it doesn't apply.

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Paddycakes

Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject:

Smee wrote:

calendar wrote:

I know more people are not going to like what I will say here but it needs to be said.

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I upset a lot of netizens and some other journalists, so they were looking for a way to get me in trouble

lol.

Smee, when are you coming back to Korea?

Korea's been a dull place ever since you left... You need to come back.

When most people were writing about fluffy subjects like the Kimchie Festival or life in New Zealand in the Gwang News, you were writing "hard-hitting" expose's that denounced the Korean Teachers Union (aka, all the people you worked with a your EPIK school)... I recall you accused them of using their classrooms to indoctrinate their students into some Nationalist Korean (anti US beef) cause.

Great days...

Never a dull a moment...

I like you.

You gotta come back.

ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:55 pm Post subject:

calendar wrote:

I know more people are not going to like what I will say here but it needs to be said.

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I upset a lot of netizens and some other journalists, so they were looking for a way to get me in trouble

Uhm... how is he a Korea hater?
If you had bothered to read the blog (which I doubt) you'd see articles describing bad foreigners as well.

By the way, where is your blog calendar? Laughing

calendar

Joined: 22 Sep 2011
Location: being a hermit

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject:

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If you had bothered to read the blog (which I doubt)

I read it andit was terrible, wrong and misleading. It played to those who canot adjust to this country, who find every little thing they can wrong with the people and society and on it goes.

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you'd see articles describing bad foreigners as well.

The pot calling the kettle black. As I explained in the KT article thread, smee and others remind me of a girl who claims she loves a guy yet spends her time nitpicking every little thing he does, demanding that he change to meet her ideals an dways. Soon the guy is going to say, you do not accept me for whom I am and you do not love me. Well that illustration applies to you alls attitude and behavior towards Korea and Koreans.

You do not love this place or its people. You love your home country/people and want to change Korea/Koreans to be like them. That is not right and shows you hate Korea.

calendar

Joined: 22 Sep 2011
Location: being a hermit

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:07 pm Post subject:

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By the way, where is your blog calendar

Why would I have a blog?

morrisonhotel

Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:34 pm Post subject:

ThingsComeAround wrote:

By the way, where is your blog calendar? Laughing

I'd be more curious to know what his previous handle on here was.

ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:36 pm Post subject:

calendar wrote:

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If you had bothered to read the blog (which I doubt)

I read it andit was terrible, wrong and misleading. It played to those who canot adjust to this country, who find every little thing they can wrong with the people and society and on it goes.

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you'd see articles describing bad foreigners as well.

calendar wrote:

Why would I have a blog?

Unlike you, who seems to be the real pot calling the kettle black, Smee isn't a goof-off "I hate your ways" type of expat. He has tried to help us improve our teaching skills, and he gives us things to think about concerning social & political articles with regard to our jobs and life in Korea. @calendar- you haven't done anything but complain.

Your "handle & location" states:

calendar

Joined: 22 Sep 2011
Location: looking down on you

talk about condescending

You come off as a bitter and displeased- for lack of a better term, a TROLL Laughing

Edit:
@morrisonhotel
You and me both... Asmith? Idea

Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:39 pm Post subject:

calendar wrote:

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By the way, where is your blog calendar

Why would I have a blog?

You obviously need one so you can stop polluting threads that are meant to inform a person trying to find out if he or she can be involved in journalism in Korea with your "love it or leave it" rhetoric.

Shoo, go back to the KT article thread.

calendar

Joined: 22 Sep 2011
Location: being a hermit

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:43 am Post subject:

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I am not polluting the thread, as I was the first one to tell the OP about the procedures. It is all those bowing at the alter of Smee who are polluting this thread. Why are you holding up a person in high admiration who is a known law breaker? (Oh I forgot, he is an American and it doesn't matter if he breaks the law).

Your double standards are showing.

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He has tried to help us improve our teaching skills,

So? You take lessons from a bad teacher who knowingly broke the law and was caught. I wouldn't want to be in that class.

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he gives us things to think about concerning social & political articles

Like I said, I have read his stuff and he was wrong most of the time. I haven't complained, I have just pointed some things out. Besides, Smee has nothing to offer Korea and never did. All he did was do what all Americans and some Canadians do, try to force their ways upon a sovereign people, when they have no proof their ways are better or can be successful.

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Joined: 22 Sep 2011
Location: looking down on you

talk about condescending

You come off as a bitter and displeased- for lack of a better term, a TROLL

All this tells me is that you have a false standard to judge people and need to insult them because they do not agree with you or like the same people you like. A word to the wise--don't assume because you will be wrong every time.

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Shoo, go back to the KT article thread

So much for free speech, democracy, and open discussion. You do not like what you hear and turn into a police state.

murmanjake

Joined: 21 Oct 2008

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:57 am Post subject:

calendar wrote:

I am not polluting the thread, as I was the first one to tell the OP about the procedures.

Sure, now just drop it. No flame wars to get what is a good informative thread locked please. This is helpful information that isn't easily found elsewhere(though you'd think it would be).

Mods, if you have to, at least cull the dribble and leave the meat?

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