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rayray123



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you think a kid swore look at him seriously and say "what did you say?" If he starts apologizing then he probably said something bad.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlikely the kid said shee bahl...but if thats it, it needs to be addressed as it is a pretty bad swear word in Korean.

However, considering you are still fairly new at listening and understanding Korean, I would be very careful about assuming it is shee bahl and not some other word that sounds quite similar. This thread alone has provided numerous examples of what it could have been.

If you want to call a kid on saying shee bahl, better be damn sure thats what he said.
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rainism



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Unlikely the kid said shee bahl...but if thats it, it needs to be addressed as it is a pretty bad swear word in Korean.

However, considering you are still fairly new at listening and understanding Korean, I would be very careful about assuming it is shee bahl and not some other word that sounds quite similar. This thread alone has provided numerous examples of what it could have been.

If you want to call a kid on saying shee bahl, better be damn sure thats what he said.



5-1 says that's exactly what she's hearing and that's exactly what the kids said. Smile
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rainism wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Unlikely the kid said shee bahl...but if thats it, it needs to be addressed as it is a pretty bad swear word in Korean.

However, considering you are still fairly new at listening and understanding Korean, I would be very careful about assuming it is shee bahl and not some other word that sounds quite similar. This thread alone has provided numerous examples of what it could have been.

If you want to call a kid on saying shee bahl, better be damn sure thats what he said.



5-1 says that's exactly what she's hearing and that's exactly what the kids said. Smile


Odds will depend on her actual level of proficiency in Korean....sorry.
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rainism wrote:
well if you understand it, then explain it to me please.

I can in no way understand how an "m" sound can be confused with a "b" sound, but it's a "mistake" my ears make on a consistent basis.


Been hearing that little B sneak in for 10 years myself. It's definitely an M, though.

OP: I've been burned a few times early on trying to deduce what kids were saying and guessing wrong. If the kids are whining, they're saying 싫어 and if they're shocked or angry the other one is a possibility.
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
rainism wrote:
well if you understand it, then explain it to me please.

I can in no way understand how an "m" sound can be confused with a "b" sound, but it's a "mistake" my ears make on a consistent basis.


Been hearing that little B sneak in for 10 years myself. It's definitely an M, though.

OP: I've been burned a few times early on trying to deduce what kids were saying and guessing wrong. If the kids are whining, they're saying 싫어 and if they're shocked or angry the other one is a possibility.


Think it means 'Hate" (싫어). Also that curse word sounds similiar to the Chinese Korean number for 18 - 십팔.
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CarolinaTHeels



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now to think about it I know its Shebahl.

Because the students will ask me if I know what that means. And kids will say things like "so and so" said a bad word ect.
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metalhead



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not brain surgery - pretty much when a kid swears in class, the other kids will shout out 'Teacher, yok!'.

How you deal with it is entirely up to you but it's so common with the kids I usually ignore it and get on with business unless the yok was directly said to me.

And yes, a lot of the kids are incredibly rude while a lot are incredibly polite, just hope for a boss that actually cares and nips that nonsense in the bud.
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ThingsComeAround



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once my co-t said something to a fifth grade girl. She wasn't pleased. She left while slurring "Aaish shibaaa" and he sat stunned. I had a good laugh that day Laughing

Yes, OP ShiBal should not be said to nor near a teacher. Same with Sekki
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rainism



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

koreatimes wrote:
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I can in no way understand how an "m" sound can be confused with a "b" sound, but it's a "mistake" my ears make on a consistent basis.


Say the word "motor" slowly.
Next, say "boat", in this case slow or fast doesn't matter.
Now, say "whoah". Your lips start in the same place as b, not m.

However, when you say "mwo" your lips touch, same as with "b" and "m".


yes you are right.

but to achieve the bwo. b sound, I need to blow out a LOT more air and blow it out a lot more forcefully.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
Yes, OP ShiBal should not be said to nor near a teacher. Same with Sekki

Generally agree with you, but depends on the situation. One time I was going down a set of stairs after lunch to relax near a set of trees with a fellow ct. A girl was chasing another girl down the stairs and was yelling at the girl and also blurted out 'ya gei sekki ya' towards that girl. The other teacher and I just laughed at that incident. It was in no way directed at us and it was outside, so no punishment was needed. And I think the gender of us and the students are also a factor. Maybe if the two students were guys it's possible we might have reacted differently.

If a swear is directed at you, or in the classroom with you clearly present, then yes you should address it. However if it's in the hallways, or outside, and not directed at you, you'd be considered a prude if you addressed it.
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jeremysums



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: Korean cuss words... Reply with quote

If the students say a word and the good kids go, ohhhhhh or oooooooo, its probably a cuss word.

CarolinaTHeels wrote:
Ok so I finally looked up a word my students say to me all the time when I tell them something they dont like.

The word is "shebar" or something to that effect.

Online it says it means f***. So im gonna assume it really means f*** you. Am I correct?

Wow, korean kids have to take the cake when it comes to disrespect. lol

Wont be allowing that word anymore.

Any other words I should be on the look out for?
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pucciniphile



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The word happens to sound like 싶팔, the Korean word for 18.
When I hear the word, I feign naivety and innocence and say,
"Oh! So you want to talk about the number eighteen!"
Then I take out a set of pictures of 18 cats, 18 dogs, 18 trees, and 18 houses and show them to the class.
If the child reoffends, I go through the procedure again.
By the time the child offends a third time, the class gets tired of the ritual and pressures the child to stop.

The middle finger salute has also disseminated into Korea.
It so happens that the middle finger salute also means "mountain" in Korean sign language.
When I see a child display a middle finger, I feign naivety and innocence and say,
"Oh! So you want to talk about mountains!"
Then I show the child the relevant page in a Korean sign language dictionary.
That always arouses the attention of the entire class.
Then I get out a set of pictures of famous mountain peaks.
Here again, I repeat the ritual as many times as the child reoffends.
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proverbs



Joined: 28 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha! watch out for the word Jolah (졸라). it means f*ing. a lot of kids say this. i even heard one of my 2nd graders say it!

basically they'll say, "this test is f*ing (졸라) hard!".
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jeremysums



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kids say the earnest things, the funny part is the oooooo from the other kids.

proverbs wrote:
haha! watch out for the word Jolah (졸라). it means f*ing. a lot of kids say this. i even heard one of my 2nd graders say it!

basically they'll say, "this test is f*ing (졸라) hard!".
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