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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
@CentralCali
While I don't disagree with you on most of what you said, if your only source for Korean PC tech is the StarCraft dropout help-desk guy that your school hired, I'd like to tell you he isn't anyone special. |
The guy's actually a college graduate and is the school's computer science teacher. He's a pretty smart guy, generally.
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I'd like to raise your HanGeul Word with GomPlayer. That $#!% has ads built in. ADS???  |
That's not the only problem with that POS. Sadly, due to the occasional need for using Korean subtitles, I have to bear with it. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Screw Hangeul, seriously. As for GOM, forget about it and use KM player instead. IMO, it is the best video player on any platform. It's lightweight, has a ton of options and has no ads. |
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akcrono
Joined: 11 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Wish I could dig it up, but I read an article about a year ago saying that the government deregulated the active x requirement. Now the fault is on the companies that still use it. |
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Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| Wish I could dig it up, but I read an article about a year ago saying that the government deregulated the active x requirement. Now the fault is on the companies that still use it. |
Can Korean web designers/network techs work with anything else other than ActiveX? I guess that's the question.
Korea too needs to start embracing TSL for online web security or at the very least SSL; I always get irritated waiting for the 4-6 security programs to load up before I can access my Korean banking accounts.
Takes me 15 seconds to log in to my UK bank account. Account name, passcode and secret answer and BAM! done. |
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JSC
Joined: 07 Dec 2010
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Sure, the government doesn't require it however since banks, search engines (NAVER) and government institutions still require IE, I don't see its use slowing any time soon.
Funny how the article mentions that SK's coders planned to sell their technology to other countries yet failed to adapt to the technology other countries use. |
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r122925
Joined: 02 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
Sure, the government doesn't require it however since banks, search engines (NAVER) and government institutions still require IE, I don't see its use slowing any time soon. |
Actually, I'm not sure that Naver does. Naver is definitely one of the better Korean sites as far as these things go. Can you point to a Naver page that only works in IE?
But the craziest thing about this is that many government websites still require IE. The government that is legislating the change itself can't be bothered to change. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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May I give you two?
Naver shopping and Naver cloud
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| But the craziest thing about this is that many government websites still require IE. The government that is legislating the change itself can't be bothered to change. |
+1. |
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b-class rambler
Joined: 25 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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I've never had a problem browsing Naver Shopping in Chrome, nor any other part of Naver I've used. (Naver Maps actually works better because it loads faster.)
Admittedly, I've haven't gone as far as actually buying something on Naver Shopping and I'd expect that still to be a problem in Chrome because banking stuff is being involved.
When I have had to switch to IE for various Korean sites, annoying though that is, particularly when I only remember half way through the transaction , it's always been ok for me in IE8 and I haven't come across anything that needed an earlier version of IE. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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That's my point-
IE is still required for banking period. This was the only option until smartphones came out, then 'suddenly' there is an app from KB, Shinhan, et al for Android and iOS. If the programmers had any hairs on their chests they'd implement https and start the weaning from IE at the source. |
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b-class rambler
Joined: 25 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
That's my point-
IE is still required for banking period. |
And it's a perfectly fair one.
What you'd said in the previous couple of posts, however, was that Korean search engines, and Naver in particular, required IE. The admittedly annoying banking hurdle aside, they don't, as far as I, a fairly regular user of both Naver and Daum, can see. |
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martin8665
Joined: 12 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think that Koreans really tend to support other browsers officially for developing purposes!!they will stick to IE. I mean in many of the schools i have been, non of the computers have opera or Firefox installed for the users so how can they really want to support them!! |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| its gotten so bad with all the active x stuff etc that i just told samsung card to start sending me paper bills again instead of emailing them. I cant open the bills on either of my computers because they are too up to date |
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r122925
Joined: 02 Jun 2011
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I just noticed this morning that Hana Bank has started a project called "Open Banking" to bring internet banking to other browsers.
https://open.hanabank.com/info/wpdep451_13t_01.do
So I tried to use it this morning with firefox. The first annoyance was that I had to install a plugin and restart the browser in order to be able to log in using my digital certificate. So it seems rather than coming up with a standards-compliant system that would work with any browser they're planning to just make seperate plugins for every browser out there. Installing the plugin was a headache. It forced me to close several programs before it would install, and when it was finished it forced me to restart my computer. The second thing that annoyed me was that it wouldn't let me type in my password on the keyboard. Apparently it can't be sure that I don't have a keylogger installed because I'm not using their activex secure key program. Instead I had to click my password with the mouse from a virtual keyboard on the screen. It's annoying and time consuming, but not only that, I fail to see how it would be any more secure. If my computer has been compromised enough to allow someone to install a keylogger it would certainly be able to have mouse movements/clicks tracked as well. And secondly, having a big keyboard on the screen makes it much easier for anyone who may be looking over my shoulder from behind to see what my password is. But after clicking out my password on the screen, I finally was able to log in and see my balance. Wow. Amazing. I was actually using internet banking with firefox. I went to transfer some cash to pay my rent for the month... and there I hit the next failure. It won't let me transfer any money because I don't have an OTP device (one time password). Apparently the code card that I've been using for years isn't secure enough to be used with firefox. The OTP device looks like this
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2577/3967430469_f3ac2af638.jpg
It generates a new password for you each time you want to send money. Which is just fine but.... Why does open banking require this and not IE banking? I have to go to a bank in person to get one of these, and it's also not as easy to carry in my wallet as the code card is.
So that's where I stopped and reverted to Internet Explorer to complete my transaction.
So there's at least one Korean bank that's making an effort here, but it still seems to me that they're doing it wrong. |
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Pangit
Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Location: Puet mo.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| KEB site has been working with Mozilla-based clients for the past few months, if nobody has noticed. Lovin' it. |
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